adamrobertt wrote: ↑
Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:04 pm
Larsongs wrote: ↑
Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:44 am
stilwel wrote: ↑
Thu Oct 31, 2019 7:22 am
The TM Twin actually has a 200W power amp to help with that. Loads of clean power. Check them out!
SS Power Ratings aren't the same as Tube Amp Power Ratings... I think 100 SS Watts = about 15 Tube Watts.
I've played with my 22 Watt DRRI along with a friend who was playing a 100 Watt Line 6 Amp. His sounded more like 15-20 Watts... My 100 Watt Pro Twin Tube Amp would've made his inaudible...
I've seen this claim repeated a lot over the years and it simply isn't true. A watt is a watt. Sometimes tube amps can "seem" louder because of the different way they break up... most transistor amps stay very very clean throughout the entire range of volume and this can end up sounding thinner or weaker to the ear... but it's just a perceived difference, not an actual one.
Also, I've noticed that a lot of the early derision around these Tone Master amps is mostly based on old repeated "solid state" tropes like the one above, people even referring to them as "transistor" amps. (Not saying these amps don't have transistors, but it's harkening back to the first transistor amps of the 1960s and it's pretty clear that these amps are very different.) Yeah, these amps are "solid state" in a general way, basically just meaning "not tube." But these amps work in a fundamentally different way than the usual solid state amp that we're used to.
Guitarists are generally kind of morons in the way that we obsessively refuse to adapt to new technologies. Do we really all believe that the only possible way to make a good sounding guitar amp must be with 100 year old technology?
A watt is certainly not just a watt.
A clean watt is comparable. However, as you say, tube amps break up nicely. Even when they are run at what modt would call 'clean' they experience distortion, thus pass the threshold of watts which are measured clean.
Add how this wattage is distributed across frequency.
Add the speaker sensitivity.
Add the gain of the preamp.
And there is a lot of variation.
What about how the cabinet projects too.
A watt is just a watt for sure. I. E. NOT dBspl. And dBspl is not perceived volume, its only a level at particular distance and frequency.