Envelope Pedals For Bass

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Envelope Pedals For Bass

Post by Shadoweclipse13 » Sat Jul 21, 2018 11:14 am

I bought a Malekko Sneak Attack a few months back, inspired by Juan's playing of his vintage EHX MIcrosynth into an EQD Night Wire. It's a pretty cool pedal, but I feel like it's more of a pain to find sweetspots than I'd want for something that might get played live.

I don't necessarily want something that is that intense, but I was wondering if anyone knows of any other envelope type of pedals, that aren't just Auto-wah pedals. I'm thinking about selling the Sneak Attack and want to see what else is out there.

It's not quite the same, but I just found Death By Audio's Deep Animation. It looks awesome, but I'm still watching a few videos to get a better feel for it...
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Re: Envelope Pedals For Bass

Post by Harmoncj » Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:50 pm

I really love this old syb-3 pedal
https://soundcloud.com/bass-pedals-com/ ... ode-9-ex-4
there is no pitch tracking at all, its just a weird fuzz and a downsweeping envelope filter

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Re: Envelope Pedals For Bass

Post by Shadoweclipse13 » Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:56 pm

That's pretty cool! Can it do the envelope stuff without the fuzz as well?
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Re: Envelope Pedals For Bass

Post by fuzzjunkie » Sat Jul 21, 2018 3:35 pm

I've never used one, but I think you like EQD pedals? The Interstellar Orbiter looks like it would fit the bill and then some.

I use two things for filter tones:

The 1st is a half rack/desk top unit that I use for recording bass and synths. It's an Electrix Filter Queen, basically 75% of a Filter Factory in a smaller format. No midi is the main thing missing and half the size. The Edge and a few other people use them. I can get Diamond Sea type Ludwig Phase II type sounds to Radiohead using a Sherman Filterbank type sounds from it.

The 2nd is a Fairfield Circuitry Four Eyes. It can be set from anywhere from cleanish overdrive to fuzzy distortion levels. The filter can be set manually as a notched wah tone, but I have an expression pedal that can sweep it up, down, and sideways. Well it can send LFO signals to sweep it like an auto-wah or send random blips in sawtooth or square waves. That one is permanently on my board and fun with guitar or bass. It does the Diamond Sea thing, basic fuzz wah or a filtered tremolo sound that is my favorite.

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Re: Envelope Pedals For Bass

Post by Harmoncj » Sat Jul 21, 2018 3:52 pm

Shadoweclipse13 wrote:
Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:56 pm
That's pretty cool! Can it do the envelope stuff without the fuzz as well?
yea! you get filter up/down, fuzz on/off

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Re: Envelope Pedals For Bass

Post by Shadoweclipse13 » Sat Jul 21, 2018 3:52 pm

Harmoncj wrote:
Sat Jul 21, 2018 3:52 pm
Shadoweclipse13 wrote:
Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:56 pm
That's pretty cool! Can it do the envelope stuff without the fuzz as well?
yea! you get filter up/down, fuzz on/off
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Re: Envelope Pedals For Bass

Post by Shadoweclipse13 » Sat Jul 21, 2018 3:54 pm

fuzzjunkie wrote:
Sat Jul 21, 2018 3:35 pm
I've never used one, but I think you like EQD pedals? The Interstellar Orbiter looks like it would fit the bill and then some.

I use two things for filter tones:

The 1st is a half rack/desk top unit that I use for recording bass and synths. It's an Electrix Filter Queen, basically 75% of a Filter Factory in a smaller format. No midi is the main thing missing and half the size. The Edge and a few other people use them. I can get Diamond Sea type Ludwig Phase II type sounds to Radiohead using a Sherman Filterbank type sounds from it.

The 2nd is a Fairfield Circuitry Four Eyes. It can be set from anywhere from cleanish overdrive to fuzzy distortion levels. The filter can be set manually as a notched wah tone, but I have an expression pedal that can sweep it up, down, and sideways. Well it can send LFO signals to sweep it like an auto-wah or send random blips in sawtooth or square waves. That one is permanently on my board and fun with guitar or bass. It does the Diamond Sea thing, basic fuzz wah or a filtered tremolo sound that is my favorite.
Both of those sound pretty sweet. I think my distortion/drive tones on bass are pretty much covered, but mostly I'm looking for something that can react to the attack of the signal, kinda like the Night Wire does.
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Re: Envelope Pedals For Bass

Post by Shadoweclipse13 » Sat Jul 21, 2018 5:18 pm

I do appreciate the suggestion, but I'm definitely not looking for a wah or tone filter. Think more "synth" type of envelope, like the actual note attack, than filtering.
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Re: Envelope Pedals For Bass

Post by fuzzjunkie » Sun Jul 22, 2018 4:55 pm

I built one of these years ago. I called it a Filter King, but mine wasn't quite this pretty. Craig Anderton's Super Tone Control with Envelope Follower.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PuiwysaEzFY

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Re: Envelope Pedals For Bass

Post by scottydanger » Mon Jul 30, 2018 7:43 am

I'm a big fan of the Source Audio stuff. I have the original bass envelope filter, but there is a deluxe that has way more features and control. If it's good enough for Mike Gordon of Phish, it's good enough for any of us!

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Re: Envelope Pedals For Bass

Post by jamietay » Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:37 pm

solid gold "funkzilla"

seriously my favorite. so smooth, barely quacky.

2nd best- 3 leaf audio proton
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Re: Envelope Pedals For Bass

Post by Shadoweclipse13 » Sun Aug 05, 2018 10:31 pm

Checked out all the suggestions (youtube only, been crazy busy)! Thanks guys for all of the suggestions!

-Craig Anderton's Super Tone Control with Envelope Follower - Super cool pedal and functionality!
-Source Audio envelope filter - Sounded really good. I could see getting this actually.
-Solid Gold Funkzilla - Watched Andy's PGS demo of it and it sounds awesome, but not quite what I'm looking for, though I think I'd enjoy this one.
-3 Leaf Audio Proton - I love the 3 Leaf stuff. They make some very cool pedals. Proton wasn't really doing it for me.

What I'm really looking for is partly like the envelope follower in the Craig Anderton pedal. I'm not looking for something to sweep a filter, I'm really looking for something that changes the attack and decay of your signal, kinda like the Malekko Sneak Attack. I like what the Sneak Attack does, but it's kind of a pain to use. I guess, maybe more like a Boss Slow Gear/volume swell thing? I really do dig the adjustable attack and decay, I just prefer something that's a bit more user-friendly.
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Re: Envelope Pedals For Bass

Post by MechaBulletBill » Mon Aug 06, 2018 12:51 am

I nearly pulled the trigger on a DBA Deep animation because the demos sounded SO AMAZING but I can't justify the expense on an envelope filter. Just not something I'd use enough.

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Re: Envelope Pedals For Bass

Post by Shadoweclipse13 » Mon Aug 06, 2018 1:55 am

MechaBulletBill wrote:
Mon Aug 06, 2018 12:51 am
I nearly pulled the trigger on a DBA Deep animation because the demos sounded SO AMAZING but I can't justify the expense on an envelope filter. Just not something I'd use enough.
The Deep Animation DID sound really good. Very interesting pedal. I've never messed with any Death By Audio in person, but their stuff always sounds so amazing.
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