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I didn’t realise there were different versions. I picked this up for £30 a little while back. Also got a Dan Echo for £20.

sal paradise wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 23, 2024 11:28 am

I didn’t realise there were different versions. I picked this up for £30 a little while back. Also got a Dan Echo for £20.

The 18v special original one! Nice.

Also this is a nice article about them by someone who's clearly a fan. I'd also say it's better than the CE-2 because although that contains the CE-1 circuit with the level bumped up to work properly for guitars, the original unmodded CE-2 is a mono. The Waza fixed that though.

Dan Echo for £20 is a total steal though - I haven't used one of those in years, what does it compare to?

crazyzeke wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 23, 2024 11:47 am

sal paradise wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 23, 2024 11:28 am

I didn’t realise there were different versions. I picked this up for £30 a little while back. Also got a Dan Echo for £20.

The 18v special original one! Nice.

Also this is a nice article about them by someone who's clearly a fan. I'd also say it's better than the CE-2 because although that contains the CE-1 circuit with the level bumped up to work properly for guitars, the original unmodded CE-2 is a mono. The Waza fixed that though.

Dan Echo for £20 is a total steal though - I haven't used one of those in years, what does it compare to?

I have a CE-3 & that sounds identical to my CE-2. Also have a DC-2 so I really should start messing around with a stereo rig.

The Dan echo is like a DM-2 with longer delay times. Warm & dark. I guess it’s more like tape emulation. It’s cool, but not sure how useful it would be in a band situation.

crazyzeke wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 23, 2024 9:41 am

They're alright in mono but I remember having it hooked up to two stacks in parallel corners of the room and being amazed how much bigger it sounded in stereo.

Chorus in mono and chorus in stereo is two entirely different effects and I hate that they get confused for each other.

hulakatt wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 24, 2024 9:34 am

crazyzeke wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 23, 2024 9:41 am

They're alright in mono but I remember having it hooked up to two stacks in parallel corners of the room and being amazed how much bigger it sounded in stereo.

Chorus in mono and chorus in stereo is two entirely different effects and I hate that they get confused for each other.

I wouldn't go that far but I would agree that chorus is a much better proposition in stereo. I'd take a lighter chorus constantly on in stereo for spatial expanding over a heavier mono one that's switched in and out as an effect. I like the Police though and I think Andy was a mono chorus guy but with the option I'd bi-amp, always.

We started first recording sessions for our new album last week and it was hell lot of fun. I finally got to get out some of the gear I hoarded in last 12 months.

Surprise winner of the day: EKO 500! It works SOO GOOD for layering guitars on top of more traditional sounds like a tele or a strat.


The Fender Super Six with custom FRITZ & HITS Faceplate sounded really cool too.

I ordered a new amp 1/1/24, been a few weeks to get it, take it for a checkup, integrate it into my rig. Using my main setup as a "control group".

Completely forgot about the holiday-sale budget ambient/shoegaze-y board I built at the end of the year. Like, blacked it from my memory. Shameful.



If I'm gonna buy pedals and build boards, I'd damn well better actually play them.

This setup sounds really, really good.

And @kinx - that Super Six above is Super Sexy.

Still tweaking the home one. Wasn't happy with the Pigtronix Infinity looper (weird digital noise through the setup, not a cable or PSU issue so moved it on. Replaced with an RC-1-BK which is much simpler and works perfectly (of course it does).

So the Timmy it set to "Boys Are Back In Town" crunch, Micro Amp to push that for choruses etc. Rat is goosed for fuzzy, doomy riffs. The rest is obvious.



I also tidied and anchored/zipped the cables underneath as it had got a bit of a mess with all the tinkering. Even though I can't see it, it makes me happy that it's neat.

I know you put a condom on it but I'm still pretty sure your Rat has herpes

After years of Fender type amps, I'm plugging into a Marshall, and I wish I did it sooner

Pepe Silvia wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 25, 2024 4:20 pm

After years of Fender type amps, I'm plugging into a Marshall, and I wish I did it sooner

Not only do I love the Jazzmaster - what is that, Lake Placid Blue aka My Favourite Offset Colour Ever - I maintain you can get a lot done with a cranked amp and guitar plus only a clean boost and/or volume pedal in between to taste. You're forced to use more picking dynamics, volume and tone, pickup selection to vary the palette you're getting, like they did more in the 60s and 70s. You can't just fall back on a mountain of delays - your playing is front and centre, you're forced to make it good, you know? Fun challenge as a player.

Kinx wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 25, 2024 1:06 am

Surprise winner of the day: EKO 500! It works SOO GOOD for layering guitars on top of more traditional sounds like a tele or a strat.

That's awesome! I love weird, quirky rare guitars. It's supposed to be a version of the old VOX teardrop guitars with inbuilt effects and EQ presets, right? The little teardrop ones like this...



There is a magic to having weird guitars with unique tones, or unique tones on more regular guitars. My Jag has a RWRP QP for Jag in the neck and a regular W/P Hot Rail in the bridge so both on = out of phase. Sounds a bit like a Red Special that way, so much so that when I went to track a harmonised guitar solo and some overdubs, I used the out of phase position, plus a sixpence on the solo to really get that Bri tone and feel. Snapped the high E, drawback of using a coin, it shreds the strings to death.

hulakatt wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 25, 2024 12:17 pm

I know you put a condom on it but I'm still pretty sure your Rat has herpes

Like every rock star of the 80s

Pepe Silvia wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 25, 2024 4:20 pm

After years of Fender type amps, I'm plugging into a Marshall

Depending on the era, Marshalls WERE Fender type amps.

this last week I totally dismantled my board and rebuilt it for a wet/dry 2-amp setup. Finally finished it and it all sounds glorious....