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Re: The Synth Thread...

Post by Maggieo » Thu May 09, 2019 7:23 am

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Worst demo ever, but also... TAKE MY MONEY BERHIBGERRB
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Worst demo ever, but also... TAKE MY MONEY BERHIBGERRB
This. :fp:
The cool thing about fretless is you can hit a note...and then renegotiate.

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Re: The Synth Thread...

Post by Zork » Thu May 09, 2019 9:16 am

Hoooooly shit! Look at this: https://youtu.be/sSinwaShpzE

:w00t: :-* :?

Dunno bout the Behringer Synths. I was at Superbooth last year and they had lots of prototypes there, the VC340, the Pro One, SH 101 and also the Odyssey. They were all very solid and felt really like quality stuff. We also use a Midas desk in our studio but I'm having a hard time trusting a company that build shitty products for years and I just don't like the attitude of releasing clone after clone after clone. ???

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Re: The Synth Thread...

Post by tdbajus » Thu May 09, 2019 10:05 am

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I just don't like the attitude of releasing clone after clone after clone. ???
Yamaha has had a few decades to get their shit together and produce their own CS-80.
There is a good reason why copyrights expire.

They seem to be doing a better job of it, too. Would you rather have the Deep Mind 6/12, or whatever utterly cheezy Roland synth being sold under the "Juno" name. The boutique models were kind of interesting if you were an elf with pencil-width fingers, but hey- if roland makes a good, real Juno with MIDI, I'd be all over it.

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Post by Zork » Thu May 09, 2019 10:33 am

Maybe it's apples and oranges but I was not impressed by the Deepmind at all and found it a rather uninspired and uninspiring synth. Whereas Korgs Minilogue XD or Novation with the Peak and the new Summit or Waldorf with the Kyra put out very interesting and great sounding synths that really spark inspiration. So, I have to admit I would remain sceptical for nonobjective reasons, but I feel Behringer could put more effort in their original designs and do something interesting. Maybe I'm just not in the market for cheap copies of old synths, though...

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Post by tdbajus » Thu May 09, 2019 10:52 am

Whatever gets me a Yamaha CS-80.

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Post by StevenO » Thu May 09, 2019 10:56 am

The DeepMind involves a fair bit of deep diving to get it to sound best. Behringer clearly should have just made a straight up clone of a Juno 106 since that's what we all really want anyhow...

The original Minilogue is OK at best, but mostly nibbles my nutsack. I haven't played the XD but based on clips, it kind of still sounds the same as the original (plasticy) except with more bass - It's essentially the same Malibu Stacy, but with a new hat.

I haven't had much experience with the Novation stuff. I'm sure it's fiiiiine.

The synth community, unless you're into modular stuff, seems to be quite similar to the guitar community, where acceptable guitar innovation ended in 1970, the synth keyboard community doesn't seem to care for anything made past 1987. Behringer comes out with something original and everyone boos it. They create a well made and stupidly affordable version of coveted old synths and people boo them for not coming up with something original.

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Post by Telliot » Thu May 09, 2019 11:20 am

I’m not a purist in this regard, and applaud Behringer for their efforts. If the original manufacturers can’t get their shit together, I have no qualms buying a clone with modern updates that expand on what the original was ever capable of doing.
The cool thing about fretless is you can hit a note...and then renegotiate.

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Re: The Synth Thread...

Post by StevenO » Thu May 09, 2019 11:26 am

Yep! I love my Roland SH-01A, but they did some weird things with the rest of the Boutique line... The whole line could have been better implemented AND could have been a permanent fixture in their catalogue.

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Post by tdbajus » Thu May 09, 2019 11:35 am

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Yep! I love my Roland SH-01A, but they did some weird things with the rest of the Boutique line... The whole line could have been better implemented AND could have been a permanent fixture in their catalogue.
I tell you, if their Juno and Jupiter synths were full sized, I would still own both.

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Re: The Synth Thread...

Post by StevenO » Thu May 09, 2019 12:43 pm

Exactly. Those ones were particularly small. I can handle the teeniness of the SH, but that Jupiter was silly...

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Re: The Synth Thread...

Post by eggwheat » Thu May 09, 2019 2:05 pm

Can’t stand Behringer..a lot of their products are garbage and they have been sued many times for pirating in the past and sue and bully others.

I understand the demand though.. the prices of some of the vintage stuff is just ridiculous.

Actually Roland’s System 8 is one of the best sounding things they have released in years..also the TR8S is fantastic..the Novation Peak is another great modern synth and I look forward to the ‘super peak’.

There’s tons of innovation going on in the synth world. .. Behringer are just the most boring synth company out there..clones and rehashes galore.

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Re: The Synth Thread...

Post by StevenO » Thu May 09, 2019 5:42 pm

I for one welcome our new Behringer overlords.

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Re: The Synth Thread...

Post by mackerelmint » Thu May 09, 2019 11:03 pm

Telliot wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 8:27 am
StevenO wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 5:38 am
Worst demo ever, but also... TAKE MY MONEY BERHIBGERRB
This. :fp:
Seriously.

Well, at least something's happening on that front. They're still gonna get my money even if I have to track Uli Behringer down myself and stuff a wad of dollars down his throat with a broom.
This is an excellent rectangle

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Re: The Synth Thread...

Post by Singlebladepickup » Fri May 10, 2019 2:07 am

Would anyone here gripe if Behringer were a guitar company that could legally produce copies of old fenders and Gibsons and whatever else that were arguably as good as vintage, but at a fraction of the cost? Nobody would care if they weren't simultaneously pushing the boundaries of creativity in guitar design. I know they aren't some mom and pop outfit or one guy lovingly crafting synths in his shop, but Behringer is making 'reissues' of instruments the companies don't want to make. If Yamaha or Roland listened to customers they would've had years to beat them to the punch.

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