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Post by mackerelmint » Thu Aug 01, 2019 3:05 pm

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ANyone out there know if there are swappable curtis chips out there?

I'd love to replace the filter on my prophet with a Moog-style ladder(?) filter.
Ask Behringer, they make 'em.
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Post by mackerelmint » Thu Aug 01, 2019 3:09 pm

Speaking of Behringer, I wonder if they'll ever reissue old JX synths. There's always been something about the JX-3P for me that I just love. I could get one, and either add a programmer and accept its limitations and age or do the kiwi mods for a bunch of money and have something that rivals anything out there... and is also ravaged by time.

They need to hurry it up with the OBX.
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Post by Jaguar018 » Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:40 am

mackerelmint wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 11:20 am
There's this controller for the alpha juno, and it looks rad as hell. I mean, it costs a lot, but it's skookum hardware and being able to control 2 junos simultaneously to effectively have a 2 oscillator juno is pretty awesome. Especially since you could set a patch across both and then tweak it a bit for some really cool sounds.

They also do one for the JX 8/10P.
I had looked up this controller. I don't think I play well enough to invest in something like that, as much as I'd like to. It'd be like spending $400+ for something I'd barely use. BUT THEY LOOK SO DAMN COOL. :'(

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Post by mackerelmint » Fri Aug 02, 2019 3:37 pm

They do look cool, and they are pretty good for making synths sound cool, too.

I'm just glad they exist.
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Post by Zork » Mon Aug 26, 2019 8:57 am

I just bought a 1978 Roland MP-600 electric piano in excellent condition. There's next to zero info on the internet. Supposedly they have a 64 keys weighted keybed, a great dynamic range and work with a single divide down oscillator and a few filters that can be mixed together.

They do look awesome:

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...and sound really nice. I'm really looking forward to recieve it in a few days. :w00t:

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Post by Shadoweclipse13 » Mon Aug 26, 2019 8:56 pm

Zork wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2019 8:57 am
I just bought a 1978 Roland MP-600 electric piano in excellent condition. There's next to zero info on the internet. Supposedly they have a 64 keys weighted keybed, a great dynamic range and work with a single divide down oscillator and a few filters that can be mixed together.

They do look awesome:

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...and sound really nice. I'm really looking forward to recieve it in a few days. :w00t:
That sounds lovely. More basic piano sound as opposed to a Fender Rhodes. I really like it. Your picture doesn't show quite how big the back of it is, the way that video does. That thing is a beast! Get a good deal on it?
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Post by Zork » Tue Aug 27, 2019 12:05 am

Well, vintage e-pianos that don't sound like a Rhodes or a Wurli are just not very popular and can usually be had for cheap. The Roland is apparently around 250€/$ (which is also what I paid) but is quite rare.

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Post by Shadoweclipse13 » Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:52 pm

Interesting. I may have to do a little research... ;)
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Post by Zork » Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:25 pm

:)
The Yamaha CP-30 and CP-25 is worth looking at, too. A friend of mine has a CP-30 and it's super nice, but there's not one good demo on youtube I could find. It has like two independent sound layers that can be mixed or be routed to seperate outputs and has a nice tremolo built in. The CP-25 is a bit lighter and smaller and has apparently a better keybed.

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Post by Drill » Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:54 am

I got excited here, but... The Yamaha CP 30 it's an electronic piano.
Electric pianos need mechanic parts and pickups (like an electric guitar) i.e. it needs hammers, and tines/reeds/strings, piezos, etc.

I can't find any info on the MP 600 but my guess is that it is also electronic (?)

I'd love to have a CP 70/80 though (which are indeed electric and have actual strings on them :? )

PS - I hope I'm not sounding too smug

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Post by Shadoweclipse13 » Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:55 am

Yamaha CP-30. All wood and just up the road from me (relatively speaking).
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Post by Shadoweclipse13 » Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:58 am

Drill wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:54 am
I got excited here, but... The Yamaha CP 30 it's an electronic piano.
Electric pianos need mechanic parts and pickups (like an electric guitar) i.e. it needs hammers, and tines/reeds/strings, piezos, etc.

I can't find any info on the MP 600 but my guess is that it is also electronic (?)

I'd love to have a CP 70/80 though (which are indeed electric and have actual strings on them :? )

PS - I hope I'm not sounding too smug
The difference is price for me though. If I was seriously looking for something like a CP-70/CP-80, I'd probably just get an upright piano at that point. I'd bet they're cool to play, but for the money (anything over $1K), I'd rather have an acoustic.
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Re: The Synth Thread...

Post by Drill » Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:56 am

Shadoweclipse13 wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:58 am
Drill wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:54 am
I got excited here, but... The Yamaha CP 30 it's an electronic piano.
Electric pianos need mechanic parts and pickups (like an electric guitar) i.e. it needs hammers, and tines/reeds/strings, piezos, etc.

I can't find any info on the MP 600 but my guess is that it is also electronic (?)

I'd love to have a CP 70/80 though (which are indeed electric and have actual strings on them :? )

PS - I hope I'm not sounding too smug
The difference is price for me though. If I was seriously looking for something like a CP-70/CP-80, I'd probably just get an upright piano at that point. I'd bet they're cool to play, but for the money (anything over $1K), I'd rather have an acoustic.
I mean no disrespect but the difference is physical, one have circuit boards (electronic) and the others have mechanical parts (electric). If it's worth the price difference or which sound does one prefer, is subjective, I agree.

About the CP70/80. In the 80's that could've been a debate. I don't believe anyone goes through the hassle of having a CP70/80 in 2019 having an acoustic sound in mind. It's too much trouble when you can get yourself a Nord or something like that :P

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Post by Shadoweclipse13 » Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:34 am

Drill wrote:
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I don't believe anyone goes through the hassle of having a CP70/80 in 2019 having an acoustic sound in mind. It's too much trouble when you can get yourself a Nord or something like that :P
Maybe not, but those are about the same price. I was saying that between a CP25/CP30 and the CP70/80, to me, it comes down to price. I'd much rather spend $200-$300 for an electric piano than $1K.
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Post by Zork » Wed Aug 28, 2019 6:06 am

There are electro-mechanical pianos like the Fender Rhodes or the Yamaha CP-80, these involve strings or tines and pickups. And there are early analogue electric pianos. They have much more in common with electric organs or string synthesizers from their period. Some of them, like the Yamaha CP-10 or the Roland EP-20 are just a single divide-down squarewave oscillator - basically organs with no sustain and a set decay time and they sound and play like crap. The CP-30 or ME-600 are technically very similar, but are equipped with weighted keybeds and some clever electronic wizardry to have a dynamic range pretty similar to acoustic pianos. They were replaced pretty soon with the first digital e-pianos, though. I think they just were in production for too short to gain some popularity and in an era, were analogue was outdated and early digital technique was all the rage. Also, musicians were more attracted by the new polyphonic synths of that time which shaped the sound if a whole decade as we all know. Nonetheless there are some pretty decent sounds to be had with these and it has a certain charme in its own right. And of course, todays price-point of these is tempting, too.

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