Bought a 1963 Jazzmaster in pieces!

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Re: Bought a 1963 Jazzmaster in pieces!

Post by supersonicjazzmaster » Mon Sep 11, 2017 7:59 am

HH1978 wrote:What color will you paint it?
So this is the big question!
I am going to ask different guitar shops for a silver sparkle nitro finish or something like this. :?

What would be your suggestion?
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Re: Bought a 1963 Jazzmaster in pieces!

Post by Baldy » Mon Sep 11, 2017 11:57 am

Oh man, that is a tough decision, but the fun is, it's your choice to make :D there are so many nice possibilities..
Let me ask you this, what genre of music do you play? Maybe something that reflects that.

Do you want to break from the standard JM colors or go traditional?

Keep us informed please..

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Re: Bought a 1963 Jazzmaster in pieces!

Post by HH1978 » Tue Sep 12, 2017 11:42 am

That's all a matter of personal taste, but since you asked for suggestions...

If it were mine, it would end either aged sonic blue, or a dark aged lake placid blue, similar to the offset esquire Dan Strain made for Keith Urban : viewtopic.php?f=6&t=39952

By the way, if you find a shop that makes a good refinishing job here in Europe, I'll be interested :)

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Re: Bought a 1963 Jazzmaster in pieces!

Post by supersonicjazzmaster » Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:28 am

Yes, it is very individual taste, of course. I justed wanted to hear some opinions. (Original restauration or any color I like...)

I asked at a guitar shop here. The girl from the store told me to try it with graffiti spray. It is nitro. :)
I found this here below. They have a looooot of funny colors. I like the "Kiwi hell" or "Kiwi" a lot. Even the "MAD C Psycho Pink" is one of my top faves. My girlfriend said the contrast to the pickguard with the pscho pink would be better than with Kiwi.

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Re: Bought a 1963 Jazzmaster in pieces!

Post by PJazzmaster » Thu Sep 14, 2017 10:09 am

supersonicjazzmaster wrote:I like the "Kiwi hell" or "Kiwi" a lot.
Or Kiwi pastell 8)

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Post by ludobag1 » Thu Sep 14, 2017 1:48 pm

It is the brand i have use for m'y black jazzmaster ,good paint but i don t think it is nitrocellulose ,maybe derivated but thé smell is not nitro for me

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Re: Bought a 1963 Jazzmaster in pieces!

Post by supersonicjazzmaster » Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:57 pm

ludobag1 wrote:It is the brand i have use for m'y black jazzmaster ,good paint but i don t think it is nitrocellulose ,maybe derivated but thé smell is not nitro for me
Hi Ludo,

there´s a product site for the Molotow spray. The color chart is amazing! The more I look the more I want to have 20 or more Jazzmaster/Jaguar projects :)
They say it is a Nitro / Alkyd lacquer.
Ludo, what kind of cap have you used for spraying the guitar body please?

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Re: Bought a 1963 Jazzmaster in pieces!

Post by ludobag1 » Thu Sep 14, 2017 11:34 pm

Thé cap delivered with ,it spray to much larger but the paint when dry was very easy to sand and polish,but difficult to have a nice coat direct from the can
take a little time to cure i let it dry 3 weeks ,depend of thickness for sure of the layer
as i said dpn t smell like nitro ,work outdoor it is very aggresive smell and wear a respirator mask

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Re: Bought a 1963 Jazzmaster in pieces!

Post by HH1978 » Fri Sep 15, 2017 12:51 pm

As far as I remember, alkyd is not compatible with (nitro)cellulose.
Usually, I use acrylic car paint and a nitrocellulose clear coat. Sometimes (nitro)cellulose colour coat when I want to stick to Fender tints.
If you want nitro in EU, here are the suppliers I know :

http://www.rothkoandfrost.com/
https://www.emma-music.com/index.cfm
https://www.guitarsupplies.nl/nl

The first one is my favourite for vintage tint accuracy, but they are slow.
The second one is fast, and has some tints you won't find by Rothko (ie faded sonic blue)
I don't use the third anymore, but was ok for modern tints and can supply about any RAL tint.

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Re: Bought a 1963 Jazzmaster in pieces!

Post by supersonicjazzmaster » Sun Sep 24, 2017 3:54 am

Thanks for the links with the colors!

So, what´s up with my Jazzmaster project?
I nearly stripped down the bad finish. In the routing areas there is sunburst?
What is about the letters there? Anyone knows something about?
Next step is more filing the body and filling the wood.



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Re: Bought a 1963 Jazzmaster in pieces!

Post by s_mcsleazy » Sun Sep 24, 2017 9:42 am

defo looks like it was sunburst. what i'd say is if it's going to be a player guitar for you, paint it something that seems like a fender colour but with a small change.
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Re: Bought a 1963 Jazzmaster in pieces!

Post by supersonicjazzmaster » Sun Sep 24, 2017 10:43 am

s_mcsleazy wrote:defo looks like it was sunburst. what i'd say is if it's going to be a player guitar for you, paint it something that seems like a fender colour but with a small change.
Hi, yes, it will be a player definitely, not a vintage correct restauration.
It will be beaten on stages as soon as possible.
I bought a spray already. It will be finished in "kiwi hell". (this maybe sounds funny for english speaking people. In Germany the word "hell" means something like "light", "bright". :)
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Re: Bought a 1963 Jazzmaster in pieces!

Post by supersonicjazzmaster » Sat Sep 30, 2017 5:21 am

Alright, I am working on the headstock.

Here, this is the basic... :

The keys are not complete. I will use 6 complete new ones.

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So, I sawed away a bit more from the headstock to get a plane basic for a substitute wood part.

Here I compared it with the headstock of my ´63 Jazzmaster:
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I made a new headstock part and glued it to the basic.
On the basic headstock someone put a nail into the headstock... I pulled it out, now there´s a hole in the wood... but this not a problem.

The new part is a bit thicker than the original. So this the next step, get everything in good shape

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Re: Bought a 1963 Jazzmaster in pieces!

Post by mgeek » Sat Sep 30, 2017 5:32 am

Excuse the question, but is that maple you've added to the headstock? Grain looks a bit weird...

+ FWIW if this was mine I'd veneer the rear and face. It would hide the join and add a bit of stability

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Re: Bought a 1963 Jazzmaster in pieces!

Post by PJazzmaster » Sat Sep 30, 2017 5:52 am

supersonicjazzmaster wrote: Here I compared it with the headstock of my ´63 Jazzmaster:
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:o show us more of that '63 please :ph34r: Fiesta red? Or Dakota?

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