Request for feedback on 62' Jag

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Request for feedback on 62' Jag

Post by blackbox » Fri Dec 28, 2018 11:03 pm

This was billed as all-original with the exception of one bridge saddle by an established vintage gear seller (700+ feedback on Reverb, all positive).

I pulled the trigger because it was a good deal, and there are things that to me point to originality. What do you guys think?

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Re: Request for feedback on 62' Jag

Post by bterry » Fri Dec 28, 2018 11:15 pm

Hard to tell from the pics, but, what do the nail holes look like and have you seen the body date? Should be in pencil.

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Re: Request for feedback on 62' Jag

Post by andrewaward » Fri Dec 28, 2018 11:47 pm

Refin with a bad relic job

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Re: Request for feedback on 62' Jag

Post by marqueemoon » Sat Dec 29, 2018 12:57 am

It’s not hard to find the listing, so I did. It was sold as a refin.

Can anyone comment on the originality of the pickguard or the idea that it could have been CAR originally? Both seem suspect to me.

A vintage guitar without the original pickguard would not be “all original” to me.

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Re: Request for feedback on 62' Jag

Post by andrewaward » Sat Dec 29, 2018 1:47 am

looks like it was a sunburst originally

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Re: Request for feedback on 62' Jag

Post by sookwinder » Sat Dec 29, 2018 1:53 am

Can't say for certain, but it looks like to me that the bridge cover is a modern reissue ... they are slightly different shape (end/edge) than the original 50/60/70s covers.

Also the plastic tip of the trem arm looks too white... could also be a modern reissue
relaxing alternative to doing actual work ...

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Re: Request for feedback on 62' Jag

Post by eggwheat » Sat Dec 29, 2018 3:25 am

This was on reverb for a couple of months selling as a refin at a low price about 4 months ago?

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Re: Request for feedback on 62' Jag

Post by Con-Tiki! » Sat Dec 29, 2018 4:30 am

i've never seen wear like that. for a minute, i thought maybe it had been in a case before the paint was fully cured. Those weird speckles...
It looks like an old body, but it looks like dakota under the fiesta, not car.
I didn't try to find that listing, so i don't know what you spent. Originality is not my first concern, so if the price was right, i'd be okay with it.
I might be tempted to see what's underneath all that paint.

bigger issue for me, would be the matched headstock.
If it's not one of those 'factory repaints', someone wrecked the original decal/headstock finish.
(Christopher, also)
I've been to one World's Fair, a picnic, and a rodeo, and that's the stupidest thing i ever heard come out a pair of headphones.

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Re: Request for feedback on 62' Jag

Post by Paul-T » Sat Dec 29, 2018 5:32 am

Neck is conceivably OK, would need to see more photos.

But that is a very poor relic job which with that scratchplate would put me right off, personally.

I can't see the Reverb listing, could someone post it please?
"classic marked down to 20 pence bargain bin fodder'

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Re: Request for feedback on 62' Jag

Post by Tree's » Sat Dec 29, 2018 5:55 am

Pickguard looks original. Remove one of the mounting screws , and dig/scratch the countersink area a couple of times with the tip of the screw or an exacto blade then smell the scratch, it should put off a strong vicks vapor rub scent.

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Re: Request for feedback on 62' Jag

Post by blackbox » Sat Dec 29, 2018 5:56 am

I would also like to see listing where it was sold as refin as seller claimed to me finish is original

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Re: Request for feedback on 62' Jag

Post by marqueemoon » Sat Dec 29, 2018 8:00 am

blackbox wrote:
Sat Dec 29, 2018 5:56 am
I would also like to see listing where it was sold as refin as seller claimed to me finish is original
https://reverb.com/item/13255882-vintag ... r-1962-red

“The finish has been redone a few times...”

This seller doesn’t have the kind of feedback you described, but it sure looks like the same instrument to me. Must be a previous transaction.

It looks like a refin to me.

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Re: Request for feedback on 62' Jag

Post by marqueemoon » Sat Dec 29, 2018 8:19 am

Tree's wrote:
Sat Dec 29, 2018 5:55 am
Pickguard looks original. Remove one of the mounting screws , and dig/scratch the countersink area a couple of times with the tip of the screw or an exacto blade then smell the scratch, it should put off a strong vicks vapor rub scent.
Cool tip! Just curious what you’re seeing that makes you think the guard is original. To me it looks like the back side is almost the same color and it doesn’t have the kind of uneven discoloration I’d expect to see.

That said my vintage knowledge is limited at best.

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Re: Request for feedback on 62' Jag

Post by blackbox » Sat Dec 29, 2018 8:34 am

marqueemoon wrote:
Sat Dec 29, 2018 8:00 am
blackbox wrote:
Sat Dec 29, 2018 5:56 am
I would also like to see listing where it was sold as refin as seller claimed to me finish is original
https://reverb.com/item/13255882-vintag ... r-1962-red

“The finish has been redone a few times...”

This seller doesn’t have the kind of feedback you described, but it sure looks like the same instrument to me. Must be a previous transaction.

It looks like a refin to me.
thanks,nice catch. I bought it off of someone else.

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Re: Request for feedback on 62' Jag

Post by blackbox » Sat Dec 29, 2018 8:45 am

I cancelled the purchase. Disappointing, and figured too good to be true.

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