Part II: 1966 Fender Mustang Restoration | It's alive!
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Part II: 1966 Fender Mustang Restoration | It's alive!
It makes music again! This is the second video about the 1966 Fender Mustang that was found in an attic by the daughter of a man with hoarding tendencies. They didn't know their dad ever had a guitar and still had a lot of junk to sift through. Maybe they will find the amp? (I hope it's a Princeton Reverb!)
I attempted to replace only the black plastic switch tip but realized I'd have to break solder just to get into the switch. I ended up replacing it with a proper working vintage switch donated from a '65 Fender Mustang. Thanks for checking it out! The next step is to finish the set up and bring it to the stage.
https://youtu.be/1B9-7A812jQ
I attempted to replace only the black plastic switch tip but realized I'd have to break solder just to get into the switch. I ended up replacing it with a proper working vintage switch donated from a '65 Fender Mustang. Thanks for checking it out! The next step is to finish the set up and bring it to the stage.
https://youtu.be/1B9-7A812jQ
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Re: Part II: 1966 Fender Mustang Restoration | It's alive!
Great video.
Very nice and clear.
Thank you
Very nice and clear.
Thank you
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Uh, no. Don't do that. I wouldn't be so worried about the height of the bridge as long as the action is low and playable. The height of the bridge should generally not be flush with the body anyway. These bridges function better with more downward pressure on them. Tilting the neck back with a shim and raising the bridge is a better method if necessary. Mustangs aren't as susceptible to the rattling issues that Jazzmasters and Jaguars are, though, so a shim might not be necessary.
But don't get hung up on how high up the bridge is. Just focus on string height and playability.
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Ah, interesting thougts on the Mustang bridge height.
I am working on one of my Jagstangs (modded with two Single coils, Mustang style) these days and want to change something because of the height of the bridge also. So, I had the same thoughts to shim the neck maybe...
One thing which happens when you have the bridge too high, is , that the bridge pickup is maybe in too big distance to the strings..
I had this problem, and could not screw the PU higher...
I am working on one of my Jagstangs (modded with two Single coils, Mustang style) these days and want to change something because of the height of the bridge also. So, I had the same thoughts to shim the neck maybe...
One thing which happens when you have the bridge too high, is , that the bridge pickup is maybe in too big distance to the strings..
I had this problem, and could not screw the PU higher...
It starts... when it begins.
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The only problem is when the strings foul on the back edge of the bridge, which can affect tuning stability with vibrato usage. Unless it's really extreme, it shouldn't be too bad, though.adamrobertt wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:11 amUh, no. Don't do that. I wouldn't be so worried about the height of the bridge as long as the action is low and playable. The height of the bridge should generally not be flush with the body anyway. These bridges function better with more downward pressure on them. Tilting the neck back with a shim and raising the bridge is a better method if necessary. Mustangs aren't as susceptible to the rattling issues that Jazzmasters and Jaguars are, though, so a shim might not be necessary.
But don't get hung up on how high up the bridge is. Just focus on string height and playability.
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A better solution to this type of problem is to put some foam under the pickup.supersonicjazzmaster wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:13 amAh, interesting thougts on the Mustang bridge height.
I am working on one of my Jagstangs (modded with two Single coils, Mustang style) these days and want to change something because of the height of the bridge also. So, I had the same thoughts to shim the neck maybe...
One thing which happens when you have the bridge too high, is , that the bridge pickup is maybe in too big distance to the strings..
I had this problem, and could not screw the PU higher...
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Sure. I guess that's more of an issue with the higher break angle that the Mustang has. Still, forward shimming the neck seems like a terrible idea all around to me. There's no way it'd improve the playability. I find it odd how obsessed a lot of people are with having a low bridge height.MechaBulletBill wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:21 amThe only problem is when the strings foul on the back edge of the bridge, which can affect tuning stability with vibrato usage. Unless it's really extreme, it shouldn't be too bad, though.adamrobertt wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:11 amUh, no. Don't do that. I wouldn't be so worried about the height of the bridge as long as the action is low and playable. The height of the bridge should generally not be flush with the body anyway. These bridges function better with more downward pressure on them. Tilting the neck back with a shim and raising the bridge is a better method if necessary. Mustangs aren't as susceptible to the rattling issues that Jazzmasters and Jaguars are, though, so a shim might not be necessary.
But don't get hung up on how high up the bridge is. Just focus on string height and playability.
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^^ yeah, after experimenting with different shims on my '66 stang (now sadly moved on) i decided on... the same fiberboard shim in the same spot it left the factory with. But I did use a staytrem, which isn't as tall as the stock bridge
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Yes, thanks, I guess you are right. Foam is good to get some pressure.adamrobertt wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2019 11:19 amA better solution to this type of problem is to put some foam under the pickup.supersonicjazzmaster wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:13 amAh, interesting thougts on the Mustang bridge height.
I am working on one of my Jagstangs (modded with two Single coils, Mustang style) these days and want to change something because of the height of the bridge also. So, I had the same thoughts to shim the neck maybe...
One thing which happens when you have the bridge too high, is , that the bridge pickup is maybe in too big distance to the strings..
I had this problem, and could not screw the PU higher...
It starts... when it begins.
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Great insight here! The bridge height off the body was pretty high and the neck relief/action were perfect. The problem I was having was that the tremolo was too loose feeling. I wanted it to feel more taught and didn't know how to get there until I asked my friend Mike Adams who set me straight!adamrobertt wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:11 amUh, no. Don't do that. I wouldn't be so worried about the height of the bridge as long as the action is low and playable. The height of the bridge should generally not be flush with the body anyway. These bridges function better with more downward pressure on them. Tilting the neck back with a shim and raising the bridge is a better method if necessary. Mustangs aren't as susceptible to the rattling issues that Jazzmasters and Jaguars are, though, so a shim might not be necessary.
But don't get hung up on how high up the bridge is. Just focus on string height and playability.
The cigar height is adjustable at the top (allen wrench). Raising the height of the sausage increases the pull on the springs and makes it feel stiffer. So now the set up is just about perfect. Thanks for watching!
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Luckily the mustang pickups are adjustable with screws like a Strat pickup! I like that better than adding foam to a Jazzmaster/Jaguar.supersonicjazzmaster wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2019 11:42 amYes, thanks, I guess you are right. Foam is good to get some pressure.adamrobertt wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2019 11:19 amA better solution to this type of problem is to put some foam under the pickup.supersonicjazzmaster wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:13 amAh, interesting thougts on the Mustang bridge height.
I am working on one of my Jagstangs (modded with two Single coils, Mustang style) these days and want to change something because of the height of the bridge also. So, I had the same thoughts to shim the neck maybe...
One thing which happens when you have the bridge too high, is , that the bridge pickup is maybe in too big distance to the strings..
I had this problem, and could not screw the PU higher...
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Yes, I like them also, but they are limited in getting more height if needed.
And when the screw not works correct, when it´s overrunning, a piece of foam is maybe a good solution I guess.
With the Jazzm./Jaguar construction you have got the length of the screws which is enough.
I will try and keep you updated.
And when the screw not works correct, when it´s overrunning, a piece of foam is maybe a good solution I guess.
With the Jazzm./Jaguar construction you have got the length of the screws which is enough.
I will try and keep you updated.
It starts... when it begins.
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Re: Part II: 1966 Fender Mustang Restoration | It's alive!
Cool video. I've not had something that old that needed a repair. You're brave to take that on - I'm not sure my limited soldering skills would be up to snuff for a vintage instrument.