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Discussion of vintage Jazzmasters, Jaguars, Bass VIs, Electric XIIs and any other offset-waist instruments.
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"How can I help today?"

Post by zhivago » Mon Oct 02, 2006 4:09 pm

"Could I interest you in a Jaguar or a Marauder, sir?"

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Post by Pop Rob » Mon Oct 02, 2006 4:11 pm

I never get tired of the pic.  Fantastic.

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Post by Orang Goreng » Tue Oct 03, 2006 4:07 am

Of all the marauder variants, I think this is the best-looking one. Just very slick.
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Post by TheMilford » Tue Oct 03, 2006 10:36 am

Yeah, these look the easiest to replicate too.
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Post by TheMilford » Tue Oct 03, 2006 10:37 am

Also... are those maybe the first models to sport blocks and binding?
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Post by mjet » Tue Oct 03, 2006 11:17 am

TheMilford wrote: Yeah, these look the easiest to replicate too.
Except for the pickups - they'd have to be pretty strong to work that far under the pickguard, eh?
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Post by Jay » Tue Oct 03, 2006 12:12 pm

You could remove a layer or two of plastic under the pickguard where the pickups sit so that they could get a little closer to the strings but I'm afraid even with a really high output pickup the sound would be rather dull as the pcikups are going to be at least a centimeter or more away from the strings.  That might be okay at the neck but the bridge would sound dead I bet.  This one certianly loosk a little cooler IMO...  all the switches look too much like a cheap knockoff.

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Post by flatfiver » Tue Oct 03, 2006 12:26 pm

I'll take the Marauder with a side of nachos, please.

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Post by Mad-Mike » Tue Oct 03, 2006 12:34 pm

I see how it could work, but it would be a bit different from the photo.................just a tad......

The neck slot would need to be deeper than usual, where the fretboard is maybe a few millimeters higher than the pickguard, and the bridge would have to be inset into the guitar as well.  The pickups would have to be fairly high output, another option would be active ala EMG pickups.  EMG's are cased into a plastic cover about ergo thick, so it's not impossible to get a good tone, even in the bridge.

The key to getting the pickups at the right height would be having the strings almost dead straight from neck to bridge, it'd be hard to do, but probably could be done if the neck and bridge are positioned right.  Another way would be to angle the top of the body (make it thicker) towards the back of the instrument to the pickguard follows the string angle, and then rout the pickup depths to follow the string angle.
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Post by TheMilford » Tue Oct 03, 2006 12:35 pm

I dunno... maybe if the neck pocket was deepened to move the strings close to the pickps. you can get the saddles on those strat style bridge pretty low.

maybe implement a peizo too.

you've got 4 switches.

Also I really like those white switched on the silver one.
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Post by TheMilford » Tue Oct 03, 2006 12:37 pm

Hah! funny we we're thinking the same thing!
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Post by burker » Tue Oct 03, 2006 1:55 pm

Niiiiice, I like the ice blue metallic (or is it silver?) one, it looks like its non trem bridge, maybe string thru like a tele? (I never did like the strat trem on such a cool guitar... or really even on strats)

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Post by matthew » Wed Oct 04, 2006 3:26 pm

The neck pocket was apparently a little deeper, but the pickups were much stronger too.

There is an interesting discussion of the Marauder from 2001 with a lot of information on the first version here http://www.fenderforum.com/forum.html?d ... ber=107568.

The patent for the hidden pickup design is http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Pars ... PN/3035472
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Post by zhivago » Wed Oct 04, 2006 4:32 pm

matthew wrote: The neck pocket was apparently a little deeper, but the pickups were much stronger too.

There is an interesting discussion of the Marauder from 2001 with a lot of information on the first version here http://www.fenderforum.com/forum.html?d ... ber=107568.

I believe the patent for the hidden pickup design is http://patimg2.uspto.gov/.piw?docid=US0 ... PN/3035472 but I haven't been able to look at it yet (I think Quicktime on my laptop is not working properly)
thank you for the links!! :)
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Post by mjet » Thu Oct 05, 2006 3:36 pm

Maybe someone needs to get Robb Lawrence over here - he could really help us with the Marauder project.
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