"Why did you do it? Why did you do this thing to me?"

Discussion of vintage Jazzmasters, Jaguars, Bass VIs, Electric XIIs and any other offset-waist instruments.
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Re: "Why did you do it? Why did you do this thing to me?"

Post by Ceylon » Mon Feb 10, 2020 12:01 pm

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Mon Feb 10, 2020 4:44 am
Oh wow... people STILL do this?! :fp:

https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anz ... 02-74-1965
I'd actually really want a Jazzmaster with this mod. It's a bit too expensive, and it doesn't seem to be all that well done but yes, I'd rock this.
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Re: "Why did you do it? Why did you do this thing to me?"

Post by X-Ray Spex » Tue Feb 11, 2020 5:20 am

Ceylon wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 12:01 pm
Pacafeliz wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 4:44 am
Oh wow... people STILL do this?! :fp:

https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anz ... 02-74-1965
I'd actually really want a Jazzmaster with this mod. It's a bit too expensive, and it doesn't seem to be all that well done but yes, I'd rock this.
What are the actual benefits of this mod exactly?
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Re: "Why did you do it? Why did you do this thing to me?"

Post by Ceylon » Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:21 am

X-Ray Spex wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 5:20 am
Ceylon wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 12:01 pm
Pacafeliz wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 4:44 am
Oh wow... people STILL do this?! :fp:

https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anz ... 02-74-1965
I'd actually really want a Jazzmaster with this mod. It's a bit too expensive, and it doesn't seem to be all that well done but yes, I'd rock this.
What are the actual benefits of this mod exactly?
Basically it becomes two thirds of a 12-string, doubling the DGBe-strings. An early guitar rock group called the Tielman Brothers did this to their Jazzmasters and because of them it's pretty common to find on (mostly) European vintage pieces.
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Re: "Why did you do it? Why did you do this thing to me?"

Post by mgeek » Tue Feb 11, 2020 9:03 am

Honestly I think it's really cool. Strings in courses sound excellent. If I got a vintage JM which that had been done to I'd probably leave it alone. Also- like 'a fender mandolin grafted onto the bass side of a '52 Tele and the whole thing getting covered in rhinestones, it's a cool window into a particular time and scene (though...not in this case as someone has done it to a more recent JM but whatever :D )

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Post by higgsblossom » Tue Feb 11, 2020 10:41 am

X-Ray Spex wrote:
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What are the actual benefits of this mod exactly?
You‘ll never need a chorus pedal again. ;)
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Re: "Why did you do it? Why did you do this thing to me?"

Post by sir h c » Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:24 am

So, abandoned house, leaky roof, vintage guitars...

https://imgur.com/gallery/p8RGC1G

The fret markers from the D'Angelico are poorly put into the 1959 Jazzmaster (which is mostly "fretless").

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Re: "Why did you do it? Why did you do this thing to me?"

Post by will » Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:51 am

sir h c wrote:
Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:24 am
So, abandoned house, leaky roof, vintage guitars...

https://imgur.com/gallery/p8RGC1G

The fret markers from the D'Angelico are poorly put into the 1959 Jazzmaster (which is mostly "fretless").
Sad, so sad.

Still, pretty good finds!

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Re: "Why did you do it? Why did you do this thing to me?"

Post by mgeek » Sat Feb 29, 2020 11:30 am

sir h c wrote:
Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:24 am
So, abandoned house, leaky roof, vintage guitars...

https://imgur.com/gallery/p8RGC1G

The fret markers from the D'Angelico are poorly put into the 1959 Jazzmaster (which is mostly "fretless").
maybe they sobered up, realised they'd ruined two great guitars and simply abandoned their house rather than having to look at them again?

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Post by StrangeIdols » Wed Mar 04, 2020 5:50 pm

sir h c wrote:
Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:24 am
So, abandoned house, leaky roof, vintage guitars...

https://imgur.com/gallery/p8RGC1G

The fret markers from the D'Angelico are poorly put into the 1959 Jazzmaster (which is mostly "fretless").
The sharpie'd on "fender jazzmaster" at a wonky angle really makes it for me, you can almost see the letter where the modder gave up

They did really miss an opportunity to call it something like a jazz²master though

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Re: "Why did you do it? Why did you do this thing to me?"

Post by Mechanical Birds » Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:59 pm

Ceylon wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 12:01 pm
Pacafeliz wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 4:44 am
Oh wow... people STILL do this?! :fp:

https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anz ... 02-74-1965
I'd actually really want a Jazzmaster with this mod. It's a bit too expensive, and it doesn't seem to be all that well done but yes, I'd rock this.
Hell yeah, especially at that price. I’ve always been obsessed with the Lee Ranaldo Deimel guitar of which they ended up using an x-ray for the cover of Corporate Ghost and would love to get the chance at least to try something like that out. This scratches that itch pretty well I’d say

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Re: "Why did you do it? Why did you do this thing to me?"

Post by invisible man » Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:56 pm

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpr ... 3436151443

Not to bad, could be salvaged. What historical value do you put on a psychedelic refin/carve done in 1967?
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Re: "Why did you do it? Why did you do this thing to me?"

Post by will » Mon Mar 09, 2020 1:11 pm

invisible man wrote:
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Not to bad, could be salvaged. What historical value do you put on a psychedelic refin/carve done in 1967?
Unfortunately, it would be valued in negative dollars. ...unless it is somehow "historically significant," I guess?

When something is modified to meet the tastes of the time, it really never increases the value. (be it LSD woodburning projects, 70's walnut stain and brass hardware, EVH stripes and Floyd Installs, or whatever.)

I guess the only exception is if a guitar gets some expensive parts bolted on - like a $75 plywood Teisco with a pair of original wide range humbuckers will probably sell for the price of a pair of original wide range humbuckers.

...but not for the cost of an unmodified Teisco plus the cost of the pickups.

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Re: "Why did you do it? Why did you do this thing to me?"

Post by mgeek » Tue Mar 10, 2020 4:36 am

not to art shame- that is fine, but I'd have no qualms about filling it and painting that a solid colour.

If it was really colourful, more typical of the time stuff, a bit out there like the Monterey strat or George Harrison's guitar, regardless of whether the person who did it was famous or not, I'd leave it alone.

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Post by tribi9 » Tue Mar 10, 2020 8:39 am

George Harrisons painted Strat is fugly.. Butchered home paint jobs never look good..
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Re: "Why did you do it? Why did you do this thing to me?"

Post by mcatano » Wed Mar 11, 2020 7:41 am

I think that sketchy acidhead wood carving is funny and weird enough to keep as-is. It's a million times more interesting than a competent nitro refin and no less valuable an instrument than it would be if it had a more generic finish. Seems weird to me to want a vintage instrument (ie, something with a bit of history to it) and then paint over the actual history.

I'm all for stripping and refinishing crappy poly refins from the 80s, but getting MJT to do a light cosplay finish on something like that thing makes no sense to me.

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