Its not a Jazzmaster,Jaguar,Mustang,Starcaster, it's a PIECE OF CRAP & I keep it

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Re: Its not a Jazzmaster, Jaguar, Mustang, Starcaster but it's still an Offset

Post by the older brother » Wed Feb 13, 2008 1:28 am

Great buy!

A really lovely looking guitar. Congrats!

How much did you pay for it?
Someone knows where I can find the nearest woodchipper to throw my pieces of junk into?

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Re: Its not a Jazzmaster, Jaguar, Mustang, Starcaster but it's still an Offset

Post by k o y l » Wed Feb 13, 2008 2:25 am

stereordinary wrote: No, it's veneered.  Good buy regardless!
I know you would pop up here to help !  :)
...mmm what is veneered ??
theworkoffire wrote: So is it the white one you've bought or the stripped one? Or is that the same guitar before and after some work? And if so will you get the missing pickup? The stripped one has a neck-access truss rod, I noticed.
I bought the white one.

I found some other info about these guitars:
http://www.matsumoku.org/models/aria/solid/str/str.html
http://www.matsumoku.org/ggboard/viewto ... ia+diamond

Everybody seem to agree to tell they're very good.
eupat wrote: nice
but it 's a 24.75' scale like a Gibson, right ?
Mustangs are 22.5' or 24'.
I thought Mustang were 24,75'... but yeah the neck scale is 24 ,75'
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Is that what this is?  This is hanging on the wall at my local pizza parlor...

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It's exactly what it is !
And if you didn't post that pic a while ago I'd never knew there was Epiphone ET -270 with Fender headstocks... so thanks !  ;)
the older brother wrote: Great buy!

A really lovely looking guitar. Congrats!

How much did you pay for it?


I paid 300.
Considering the selling price of the Epi ET-270 + shipping costs to get them here from the US, it's a good price I think.

If anyone is interested, there's a ET-270 on eBay US right now.
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Re: Its not a Jazzmaster, Jaguar, Mustang, Starcaster but it's still an Offset

Post by fuzzking » Wed Feb 13, 2008 3:12 am

i remember seeing lots of aria guitars whit music (jazz) students in the early 90s. some of them were really good.

the white is great looking!
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Post by mynameisjonas » Wed Feb 13, 2008 3:51 am

the body shape reminds me of john squire's weird looking custom jags. but this looks a lot better.

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Re: Its not a Jazzmaster, Jaguar, Mustang, Starcaster but it's still an Offset

Post by k o y l » Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:07 am

FUZZ_KING wrote: i remember seeing lots of aria guitars whit music (jazz) students in the early 90s. some of them were really good.

the white is great looking!
I was not too much in white guitars since it often comes with another color pickguard but Olivier Ackerman's Jaguar was a revelation: White on white is a great color combo.
I guess theolderbrother Jazzmaster played it's role too..

And since I now have an all black JM, I've had to have an all white guitar to get both side of the force in back in balance.  :D
mynameisjonas wrote: the body shape reminds me of john squire's weird looking custom jags. but this looks a lot better.
This one ?

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WTF with the 2 bridges ?? !!  :-[
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Post by mynameisjonas » Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:17 am

^ yep, he had a white one as well. i think the tailpiece was just there for looks, the strings were never attached to it.
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Post by ohm-men » Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:26 am

Yup, they are really cool. I almost bought one a few years back for 125 Euro. Didn't buy because I could not talk the seller down to 100,- + he was a real jerk...
It was a Sunburst example but the neck PU was broken and the trem arm was lost. It was really heavy and the neck was more chunky then I liked.
But overall a really cool guitar. Stock PU's have not a strong output as I recall But It sounded somwhere between a JAg and A JM. I giged once with it. Then returned it to the guy who sold it later on...

They have been re_issued as well. I saw a brand new one at a music fair a few years back. Body was not venered but it felt not as nice as the original. Re-issue was notably cheap as I recall both in price and feel. But it still had the special trem system instead of a strat alike trem as found on other re_issues...
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Post by Stereordinary » Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:33 am

k o y l wrote:
stereordinary wrote: No, it's veneered.  Good buy regardless!
I know you would pop up here to help !  :)
...mmm what is veneered ??
In this case it's where they put a thin layer of a nice wood on the top and bottom, so that the visible wood grain under the sunburst looks high quality.  Yes, I'd be willing to bet money that that stripped body was at one time sunburst.  Unless they just did all of their bodies that way.  You know how a '62 JM has a "slab" fretboard, and a CIJ has that really thin, curved fretboard?  The CIJ is a veneer.
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Post by k o y l » Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:09 am

Yes it was sunburst (you won !  :D).. there was some other pics on the page.. unfortunately I lost the link
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Post by k o y l » Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:39 am

ohm-men wrote: Yup, they are really cool. I almost bought one a few years back for 125 Euro. Didn't buy because I could not talk the seller down to 100,- + he was a real jerk...
It was a Sunburst example but the neck PU was broken and the trem arm was lost. It was really heavy and the neck was more chunky then I liked.
But overall a really cool guitar. Stock PU's have not a strong output as I recall But It sounded somwhere between a JAg and A JM. I giged once with it. Then returned it to the guy who sold it later on...

They have been re_issued as well. I saw a brand new one at a music fair a few years back. Body was not venered but it felt not as nice as the original. Re-issue was notably cheap as I recall both in price and feel. But it still had the special trem system instead of a strat alike trem as found on other re_issues...
Is the neck very chunky ? Could you give a comparison ?
I thought I bought a lighter guitar than the Jazzmaster...  ::)
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Post by ohm-men » Thu Feb 14, 2008 2:14 am

I can't comment on the others, since I only played one. It was a 3 piece body (visible thru the SB finish) Body was heavy. Headstock had "Aria Diamond" on it. Guess it was mid/late 60ties. Neck was Fender like, although thicker then a CIJ JM (I had at the time) Felt a bit like a Tele?!. Neck was also 2 or 3 piece on the example I played.
I liked it so I wanted it for 100,- (mind it's 4 or 5 years ago and it had issues, I would need a new pick up and rewire it, etc, so sink extra cash in it. + I had a JM and Jag at that time + some other guitars, so I didn't really need it...) But It felt nice and familiar. SB finish was also nice on this one.
But In the end, should I have bought it, I doubt if I would kept it. I tend to buy a vintage (cheap) guitar now and then, but usually end up selling it.

But those Aria's are cool guitars, no doubt about that. Just not up to JM/Jag standard imo.
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Re: Its not a Jazzmaster, Jaguar, Mustang, Starcaster but it's still an Offset

Post by luau » Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:08 am

Very cool and not entirely unlike the Univox I'm after.
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Post by k o y l » Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:24 am

The one with 3 pups and sunbursst finish ?? the "thanks mom and dad" auction ?  ???
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Post by luau » Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:29 am

Close. That's almost a UC-3 but not quite. I want a UC-2. There's a rough white one on the bay ATM here that I might pursue.
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Post by mrweems » Sun Feb 17, 2008 4:13 am

that white one with the weird brigdge whammy section looks like the guitar the guy from Band of Horses plays

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