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Re: found this on ishibashi (warning, brown content)

Post by UlricvonCatalyst » Sat Dec 16, 2017 1:09 am

Brown guitars. Yuck!

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Re: found this on ishibashi (warning, brown content)

Post by BoringPostcards » Sat Dec 16, 2017 1:53 am

mbene085 wrote:
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I love how people complained about the Doheny having too much blank space with no vibrato, but a lot of the same people love this abomination.
The tele guard and bridge and whatever just looks so fucked up on a jazzmaster body. I'll never see the appeal. I've seen them hanging in guitar shops, I don't even bother trying one. They appeal to me about as much as a B.C. Rich Warlock.
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I mean, take out the relic job and that's pretty hot IMO. But I agree with you, having the giant blank space is silly. I love tele pickups and I love offsets, but they only look right with a big honking vibrato tailpiece on them.

Then again, I like the Doheny. Not aesthetically, but functionally, because MFD pickups rock, the G&L 2-point fulcrum vibrato is the ultimate Strat bridge, and their built quality is second to none.
The space doesn't bother me on the Offset Tele, it's everything about the clash of the tele bridge, control plate and straight cut guard with the jazzmaster body.
I've seen people take the tele deluxe approach with offset teles and that looks much better.
My point was people trash the Doheny and Jagmaster (or any other offset with no traditional bridge/tailpiece) for having blank space where the vibrato was, but drool over these offset teles with blackguard appointments as if they don't have even more strange blank space involved.

The pickguard and general layout and design of the jazzmaster appointments goes so well with the body lines and shape and I feel the Jagmaster and others (Doheny, etc) capture that pretty good.
These offset teles takes that concept and tosses it. I feel like the upper part of the pickguard is showing they left a tiny bit of that concept intact, but not enough for me.
A mash-up shouldn't look this awkward.

To each their own.

Anybody got a pic of one done Tele deluxe style as I mentioned above?
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Re: found this on ishibashi (warning, brown content)

Post by Embenny » Sat Dec 16, 2017 9:02 am

BoringPostcards wrote:
Sat Dec 16, 2017 1:53 am
Anybody got a pic of one done Tele deluxe style as I mentioned above?
Dan (Deed_Poll) knows how it's done.

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Post by Maggieo » Sat Dec 16, 2017 9:05 am

Those are nice.
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Re: found this on ishibashi (warning, brown content)

Post by BoringPostcards » Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:32 am

Yea, those are great designs!
They look fluid and not at all awkward.
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Re: found this on ishibashi (warning, brown content)

Post by mediocreplayer » Sun Dec 17, 2017 2:47 pm

I am thinking of buying this just because I am a sucker for the all-brown look. I am not a Telemaster or P-90 guy, so that is really not a purchase that makes sense for me, but the mahogany will go well with my Walnut Jag.

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Post by FIREBOT » Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:44 pm

I got one of these off a lowball eBay bid. It is a really nice guitar... nicer than typical for Fender japan, and that's a pretty high bar. I think it was a higher-than-normal-spec model. It has full size CTS pots, and thicker USA style backplate/bridge/control-plate. It has a factory bone nut too. It really sounds great. Its the first MIJ/CIJ fender i don't feel the need to change a thing on. Also, calling the natural mahogany brown is a bit of an over simplification. It really looks stunning. two piece body with the seam dead center... Its not like those 70's brown-tinted "Walnut" color fenders at all. It is lively with iridescence and depth. Great guitar...
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Re: found this on ishibashi (warning, brown content)

Post by sirspens » Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:43 pm

burpgun wrote:
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Once again, Fender Japan has the best stuff.
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Re: found this on ishibashi (warning, brown content)

Post by s_mcsleazy » Wed Apr 25, 2018 6:06 am

FIREBOT wrote:
Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:44 pm
I got one of these off a lowball eBay bid. It is a really nice guitar... nicer than typical for Fender japan, and that's a pretty high bar. I think it was a higher-than-normal-spec model. It has full size CTS pots, and thicker USA style backplate/bridge/control-plate. It has a factory bone nut too. It really sounds great. Its the first MIJ/CIJ fender i don't feel the need to change a thing on. Also, calling the natural mahogany brown is a bit of an over simplification. It really looks stunning. two piece body with the seam dead center... Its not like those 70's brown-tinted "Walnut" color fenders at all. It is lively with iridescence and depth. Great guitar...
pictures? i want to see the brownness
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Re: found this on ishibashi (warning, brown content)

Post by FIREBOT » Wed Apr 25, 2018 2:48 pm

How do people post photos on here in the post-Photobucket world?

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Re: found this on ishibashi (warning, brown content)

Post by eskmsaul » Wed Apr 25, 2018 3:25 pm

FIREBOT wrote:
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How do people post photos on here in the post-Photobucket world?
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Re: found this on ishibashi (warning, brown content)

Post by FIREBOT » Wed Apr 25, 2018 4:01 pm

Seller says the model name is actually "telemaster Ace", and is the signature model for a guy in a Japanese band called "Radwimps". He also says the factory pickups are a Duncan SP-90 at the neck, and a fender Twisted Tele at the bridge, which i believe because it sounds great, but can find no other documentation for. Another interesting note is that the nut is definitely bone, and the inlays are listed as "ivory", which could mean the color, but... I've been to Japan many times... depending on how limited and/or upscale this is, I'd give you 50/50 odds that its really ivory...

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Re: found this on ishibashi (warning, brown content)

Post by sunburster » Wed Apr 25, 2018 4:10 pm

Looks very nice! Great dark fretboard on that one.

Ivory just refers to the colour of the inlays; it's standard practice for their spec sheets. Fender Japan isn't using actual ivory for any inlays.

Here is a website for the guitar, in Japanese:

https://www.rittor-music.co.jp/s/fender_tm_ace/

It states the pickups are as you were told (Duncan SP-90, Twisted Tele). The 324,000 yen list price is ridiculously expensive! :wtf:
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Post by FIREBOT » Wed Apr 25, 2018 4:14 pm

Ivory just refers to the colour of the inlays; it's standard practice for their spec sheets. Fender Japan isn't using actual ivory for any inlays.
I didn't think so, but couldn't easily rule it out. I've been fed raw whale and raw horse there... couldn't rule it out, but I believe you.

...got it for $900.

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