What's the Affinity Jazzmaster shape?

[Lame Pseudonym]

Fender calls the Squier Affinity Jazzmaster shape "Jagmaster". Alls I know is that relative to a real Jazzmaster, it doesn't look right to me.

Can anyone here articulate the difference between the two? Could a "Jagmaster" be converted back into a "Jazzmaster"?
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[HNB]

If you filled the strat tremolo you could make it into a Jazzmaster by changing the routs. It is a lot of work when you could just get a Jazzmaster body and paint it or get a Squier Jazzy body that is already that way.

[Lame Pseudonym]

I probably misspoke. I'm talking about the outline. I want a hardtail light Jazzmaster but I'm not really sure that the Affinity Jazzmaster is shaped like a Jazzmaster.
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[HNB]

It is. Here is an affinity guard on a Jazzmaster body.

20180825_113806 by Christopher Louck, on Flickr

[jesterpunk68]

A Jagmaster is basically a hardtail jaguar or jazzmaster depending on the neck scale length with hum buckers.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squier_Jagmaster

[leokula]

Fender calls the Squier Affinity Jazzmaster shape "Jagmaster".

I think the reason they are saying this is because it has the strat trem cavity. I don't see any differences in the outline.

Can you point out what is the thing you find odd about it?

[NICQ]

Fender calls the Squier Affinity Jazzmaster shape "Jagmaster". Alls I know is that relative to a real Jazzmaster, it doesn't look right to me.

Can anyone here articulate the difference between the two? Could a "Jagmaster" be converted back into a "Jazzmaster"?
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I have a Affinity Jazzmaster and the shape is similar to my other 8 Jazzmasters.. but even AVRI, JMJM and VM are slightly different with the JMJM being a bit bolder or less sleek than the AVRI on the curves/edges of the upper horn and tummycut but the difference is only obvious if you have them standing side by side - the outline shape is the same

I guess like others have pointed out it has the hardtail trem similar to the Jagmaster - maybe Fender refered to that..

I can take pictures tomorrow if you want - just tell me what you are looking for exactly.. if it's just the body outline then I can confirm that it's quite the same on all Fender Jazzmasters - I can't see a noticable difference between an Affinity and an AVRI when they stand next to each other

[Lame Pseudonym]

Well, this is very helpful, thank you.

It seems to me that the right (knob) side butt cheek on the Affinity Jazzmaster is skinnier and/or longer than on a real Jazzmaster. Kind of like a cartoonish exaggeration of a real Jazzmaster.
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[s_mcsleazy]

a jagmaster is a different body shape from a jaguar/jazzmaster. it's kind of fatter. my main jazzmaster started life as a jagmaster body

as for the new affinity jazzmasters, i think their just the jazzmaster body shape with a hardtail.

[Lame Pseudonym]

I've been putting around with modifying body outlines (Epiphones) and it takes a very little change to make something look different.

[NICQ]

I have compared my Squier Affinity JM to an 2009 AVRI and a Lee Ranaldo Signature (should also be US spec AVRI, guitar is from 2012I think) :

The "right (knob) side butt cheek" of the Affinity (foreground in black) is 99% the same as on the 2009AVRI (dark blue in the back) -


the difference is that the AVRI's edge is slightly more rounded over and the Affinity is a bit more square (like the JMJM and VMJM) and that makes it look different ("bigger") especially if you look at it from an angle..



The Lee Ranaldo Signature (US - should be AVRI) is even more rounded over and slimmer than the AVRI



The diffierence between the US spec and the Affinity (black) is more obvious and visible at the forearm contour and tummycut where the US (in blue) is visibly slimmer :






I compared another AVRI (vintage white one) and it also is different to the blue AVRI and the Lee Ranaldo Sig... didn't take pictures from that one, got annoyed and stopped comparing them.. they are slightly different if you compare the shapes ... but I'd never notice when I had one in my handy alone... only if you compare them side to side




Conclusion:
Non-Fender Jazzmasters can be noticably different to the Fender Jazzmasters (contours sometimes the curves)
Squier bodies are a bit bolder - not as much rounded off at the edges, tummycut and forearm contourand may therefore look "bigger" though their body outline/size is 99% the same.
There are differences between various US spec models (AVRI to AVRI from another year or Signature models) - none of them look "wrong" but they are all slightly different which is dependent on how the edges and contours of the body have been sanded and rounded over because some parts will look slightly thinner/thicker...


My girlfriend has a good eye when it comes to tiny differences in shape and she says that the Affinity and the 2009 AVRI look very similar besides the transition from forearm contour to tummycut... but the edges and contours are roughly the same with the Affinity being slightly bolder... the Lee Ranaldo is visibly slimmer than the AVRI and it looks really different when compared to the Affinity.

Also my girlfriend says thanks for making her spend another 30 mins of her life holding guitars and taking pictures

[HNB]

LOL That is super funny. It is like when I have to reach over my wife's desk to get one of my guitars hanging over it.

I took a picture of my vista Jagmaster next to my MJT Jazzmaster. Their body shape is pretty much the same. Different scale of course with the vista, but the body shape looks the same to me. Contours seem like something that is sometimes different from one guitar to another. (Especially tummy cuts.)

2018-09-01_09-34-12 by Christopher Louck, on Flickr

[Lame Pseudonym]

" Post by NICQ » Sat Sep 01, 2018 12:18 am
I have compared my Squier Affinity JM to an 2009 AVRI and a Lee Ranaldo Signature (should also be US spec AVRI, guitar is from 2012I think) : ... "

Magnificent. Thank you.

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[windmill]

Thanks for the post NICQ

it is always good to be able have a comparison and see the differences for ourselves.

Excellent pictures

And thank your girlfriend for her help on our behalf.

[Stephen_42]

To my eye, the horn / wing / whatever you want to call it on the bass side looks stubbier / less pointy on a Jagmaster than a Jazzmaster. (And a Jazzmaster in turn being a little stubbier / less pointy than a Jaguar.)