Johnny Marr Jag bridges in stock

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Johnny Marr Jag bridges in stock

Post by JagWire » Thu Feb 21, 2019 5:37 am

To anyone who can't get their hands on a stay trem, Johnny Marr Jaguar bridges with 52mm string spacing are back in stock on Darren Riley.

Get em while they're hot!

https://darrenriley.com/store/fender-am ... 712971000/

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Re: Johnny Marr Jag bridges in stock

Post by Con-Tiki! » Thu Feb 21, 2019 11:53 am

I just bought one last week, very exciting.
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I've been to one World's Fair, a picnic, and a rodeo, and that's the stupidest thing i ever heard come out a pair of headphones.

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Re: Johnny Marr Jag bridges in stock

Post by soul1 » Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:07 pm

Wondering how you confirmed these have the correct spacing? I ask because some of the Marr model/finishes come with bridges with the incorrect spacing.

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Re: Johnny Marr Jag bridges in stock

Post by timtam » Thu Feb 21, 2019 4:36 pm

soul1 wrote:
Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:07 pm
Wondering how you confirmed these have the correct spacing? I ask because some of the Marr model/finishes come with bridges with the incorrect spacing.
https://darrenriley.com/store/fender-am ... 712971000/
"Genuine Fender American Professional / Johnny Marr Jaguar bridge assembly 7.25″ radius and 2-3/32″ string spacing."

2-3/32" = 53.2mm

Also the part number (7712971000) is different to the original Marr bridge part number (0091905000).

But I can't recall if anyone who ordered from Riley's earlier batch of this bridge has confirmed the narrower E-E spacing.

The curious thing is that Riley lists this bridge as an American Pro / Marr bridge. The part number for the Am Pro bridge was / is (?) 7709942000 ... unless they have changed that guitar too ... but the Am Pro neck is 9.5" and the Marr 7.5". Riley still sells that 9.5" Am Pro bridge, and lists the spacing as 2-1/16" (ie 52.4mm ... narrower !) .. which it never was AFAIK.
https://darrenriley.com/store/fender-am ... 709942000/
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Re: Johnny Marr Jag bridges in stock

Post by JagWire » Thu Feb 21, 2019 5:14 pm

From Fender in response to an inquiry for the part number to the 52mm Marr bridge.
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If I understand correctly the first wave of Marr bridges DID NOT have 52mm spacing, which could explain the other part number. It is odd that he has AM Pro in the title but I think thats just a mistake as he has AM pro bridges in a separate listing. It is odd that he has its spacing listed as slightly more narrow than the Marr bridge, perhaps another mistake?

At any rate I ordered one and I'm hoping it will be here Saturday. I will report back with measurements.

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Re: Johnny Marr Jag bridges in stock

Post by Con-Tiki! » Thu Feb 21, 2019 5:57 pm

Fender American Pro Johnny Marr Jaguar Bridge Assy 7712971000

this is what i ordered.

it's 52.5mm (or thereabouts, can't find my best scale)
absolutely 7.25" radius

first run was 55mm, which is a huge difference.
(Christopher, also)
I've been to one World's Fair, a picnic, and a rodeo, and that's the stupidest thing i ever heard come out a pair of headphones.

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Re: Johnny Marr Jag bridges in stock

Post by timtam » Thu Feb 21, 2019 6:00 pm

As well as the narrow E-E spacing, the 7712971000 Marr bridge also has the anti-sink bushings like Staytrem (as did the original Marr bridge) ...
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Re: Johnny Marr Jag bridges in stock

Post by brndgtl » Fri Feb 22, 2019 12:14 pm

Thought I’d probably still need a Staytrem but the new Marr bridge is perfect as it is. Nice to be positively surprised

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Re: Johnny Marr Jag bridges in stock

Post by takeittothemall » Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:57 pm

I'm new to this topic. What differentiates this from a Staytrem?
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Re: Johnny Marr Jag bridges in stock

Post by DesmondWafers » Fri Feb 22, 2019 2:33 pm

takeittothemall wrote:
Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:57 pm
I'm new to this topic. What differentiates this from a Staytrem?
It used to be that only staytrem had the closer spacing. If these are in fact the same spacing, there's really not that much of a difference.

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Re: Johnny Marr Jag bridges in stock

Post by timtam » Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:10 pm

takeittothemall wrote:
Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:57 pm
I'm new to this topic. What differentiates this from a Staytrem?
Main features of newer Marr bridge vs Staytrem ...

Same as Staytrem:
- ~52mm E-E spacing (only on newer 7712971000, not original Marr 0091905000 which is ~56mm)
- anti-sink bushings

On Staytrem but not Marr:
- intonation screws have nylon washers instead of springs
- intonation screws are offset from the line of the strings for easier adjustment
- 9.5" radius also available (Marr is 7.25" only)
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Re: Johnny Marr Jag bridges in stock

Post by JagWire » Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:13 pm

timtam wrote:
Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:10 pm
takeittothemall wrote:
Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:57 pm
I'm new to this topic. What differentiates this from a Staytrem?
Main features of newer Marr bridge vs Staytrem ...

Same as Staytrem:
- ~52mm E-E spacing (only on newer 7712971000, not original Marr 0091905000 which is ~56mm)
- anti-sink bushings

On Staytrem but not Marr:
- intonation screws have nylon washers instead of springs
- intonation screws are offset from the line of the strings for easier adjustment
- 9.5" radius also available (Marr is 7.25" only)
This

Also I read somewhere that the Marr saddles are made of a different metal than the old reissue mustang bridge saddles, steel instead of zinc perhaps? - can anyone confirm?

I am not sure what the stay-trem saddles are made of.

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Re: Johnny Marr Jag bridges in stock

Post by Con-Tiki! » Sat Feb 23, 2019 11:46 am

a magnet sticks, so steel i guess.
(Christopher, also)
I've been to one World's Fair, a picnic, and a rodeo, and that's the stupidest thing i ever heard come out a pair of headphones.

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Re: Johnny Marr Jag bridges in stock

Post by minimumnishe » Sat Feb 23, 2019 3:23 pm

Just ordered one last night! I was looking at finding one last week and the only place I could find them was Darren's but they were all out of stock :'(

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Re: Johnny Marr Jag bridges in stock

Post by JagWire » Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:12 am

Got my bridge Saturday. One thing to note; the bridge posts are too thick to install with a Jaguar mute - you will have to use a dremel with the cone shaped bit to widen the oval shape holes by about 1mm.

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