What defines a Jazzmaster: A Hypothesis

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Re: What defines a Jazzmaster: A Hypothesis

Post by 601210 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:50 pm

Speaking of, according to Fender, this is also a Jazzmaster:

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Re: What defines a Jazzmaster: A Hypothesis

Post by JVG » Fri Jun 14, 2019 6:08 am

Yes, it is!

Although i’ve enjoyed the whimsical direction this thread has taken at times, i can’t help getting frustrated as well. As illustrated by the post above (which i realise is tongue-in-cheek), the camp saying “it’s a Jazzmaster if fender calls it one” are taking the issue too literally, and missing the point. Why on earth would someone - in OSG especially - start a thread asking which guitars fender calls Jazzmaster?

Perhaps if the original thread title had been “what defines the aesthetics and sound of a Jazzmaster” we would have avoided all this!

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Re: What defines a Jazzmaster: A Hypothesis

Post by leokula » Fri Jun 14, 2019 8:11 am

zip73 wrote:
Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:11 pm
So if they release a Les Paul with the word Jazzmaster on the headstock, it’s a Jazzmaster?
Absolutely.
Jaguar > Jazzmaster :)

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Re: What defines a Jazzmaster: A Hypothesis

Post by Futuron » Sat Jun 15, 2019 4:10 am

What is a Mustang?

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Or maybe this:
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Re: What defines a Jazzmaster: A Hypothesis

Post by BeeTL » Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:15 pm

THIS is a Mustang:

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Re: What defines a Jazzmaster: A Hypothesis

Post by solfege » Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:16 am

TL;DR:

OSG discovers nominalism.

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Re: What defines a Jazzmaster: A Hypothesis

Post by boytbpc » Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:46 am

If we look at this through a taxonomic lense, it all makes sense, we just need to define the boundaries of each level of the hierarchy.

Kingdom: instrument
Phylum: guitar
Class: electric
Order: Offset
Family: Jazzmaster
Genus: fender
Species: Fender American Vintage ‘65 jazzmaster

anyone want to take a swing?

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