Jazzmasters with "modern" Tremolo Spacing?

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Re: Jazzmasters with "modern" Tremolo Spacing?

Post by 601210 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:46 pm

Gold-on-white is a pretty classic combo, not exactly as groundbreaking as the purple sparkle one, so it wouldn't be a surprise if he already has a vintage Fender like that. Kevin Shields has one, too.

The one in the Noisey video looks to be the same guitar he has in his rig rundown, which has Kinmans for venues with noisy electricity. Unless he puts purple masteries on all the Squiers Fender sends him :D . You'll also notice the pickup covers are the wrong color.

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Re: Jazzmasters with "modern" Tremolo Spacing?

Post by alexpigment » Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:13 pm

Mechanical Birds wrote:
Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:51 pm
Wasn’t trying to be a dick I swear.

I’m pretty sure that all the models that have this feature are still being produced and sold new, so my MF suggestion had more to do with scrolling through the page and 3/4 of results and looking at them.
Not to belabor the point or be pedantic, but if you look at the list you can quickly determine that isn’t true. I see at least 3 models no longer in production.

As for the reasoning behind moving the tremolo forward, it’s to increase the break angle at the bridge. Many users were using Buzz Stops at the time, and this is like having one built in without the drawbacks. The Classic Player was aimed at addressing all the common JM complaints and reflected the common modding trends. That’s why the frets are bigger, radius is flatter, pickups are hotter, bridge is a TOM style, etc.

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Re: Jazzmasters with "modern" Tremolo Spacing?

Post by Mechanical Birds » Fri Jun 14, 2019 12:04 am

The ones in the OP list are pretty much it - are some of those not available new anymore? If that’s the case I stand corrected I guess.

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Re: Jazzmasters with "modern" Tremolo Spacing?

Post by 601210 » Fri Jun 14, 2019 8:41 pm

Mechanical Birds wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2019 12:04 am
The ones in the OP list are pretty much it - are some of those not available new anymore? If that’s the case I stand corrected I guess.
Searching “Blacktop Jazzmaster” on Musicians Friend yields like 1 page that would answer this question for you incredibly faster than it’d take to write that post, wait for people to reply, etc.

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Re: Jazzmasters with "modern" Tremolo Spacing?

Post by Lame Pseudonym » Tue Jul 02, 2019 8:36 am

"Modern Spacing"? What's that?
And if it isn't modern, what is it?

Measurements would help a simpleton like me.

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Re: Jazzmasters with "modern" Tremolo Spacing?

Post by aliendawg » Tue Jul 02, 2019 8:46 am

Lame Pseudonym wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 8:36 am
"Modern Spacing"? What's that?
And if it isn't modern, what is it?

Measurements would help a simpleton like me.
Some new Fender models came with a different spacing. The tremolo unit is closer to the bridge, which increases break angle

If it's not "modern" then we call it "traditional tremolo spacing"
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Re: Jazzmasters with "modern" Tremolo Spacing?

Post by politicalEconomist » Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:25 pm

Lame Pseudonym wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 8:36 am
"Modern Spacing"? What's that?
And if it isn't modern, what is it?

Measurements would help a simpleton like me.
I agree a precise measure would be nice.

Unfortunately, I don't think Fender/Squire publishes any exact measurements for the two different spacings. In fact don't think they even mention the differences in spacing in their specs.

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Re: Jazzmasters with "modern" Tremolo Spacing?

Post by politicalEconomist » Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:27 pm

Mechanical Birds wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2019 12:04 am
The ones in the OP list are pretty much it - are some of those not available new anymore? If that’s the case I stand corrected I guess.
Sorry the confusion is probably my fault. I have been updating the list as members post things or send me messages, so at the point you posted we may have found them all.

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Re: Jazzmasters with "modern" Tremolo Spacing?

Post by Lame Pseudonym » Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:09 am

What the heck is "modern" tremolo spacing? You mean they fixed it so the strings don't fall off the sides of the neck any more? Like it should have been in the first place?

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Re: Jazzmasters with "modern" Tremolo Spacing?

Post by andy_tchp » Tue Sep 17, 2019 4:31 pm

Lame Pseudonym wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:09 am
What the heck is "modern" tremolo spacing? You mean they fixed it so the strings don't fall off the sides of the neck any more? Like it should have been in the first place?
???

There's a handy link here viewtopic.php?f=6&t=112770&start=15#p1572223


Where you ask the same question, and it's answered within 10 minutes by aliendawg. Literally four posts above this one, in this exact same thread ;)
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