Fender Vintera line?

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Re: Fender Vintera line?

Post by leokula » Thu Jul 04, 2019 9:17 am

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You can see him bend up a little more than a step on the ~15th fret on the high E string and it chokes out. That's generally where the problem always happens, but I guess it could be mitigated with an expert setup to allow almost a step and a half.
Hmmmm that explains why I never had any problems with 7.25 radius LOL ... I don't think I've ever even been past 12th fret ever in my life or even had to bend that high ;D
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Re: Fender Vintera line?

Post by mcbrandt » Sun Jul 07, 2019 8:07 pm

Do the MIM jazzmasters come with good shielding in the cavities and decent electronics, or is it just the spray on conductive paint like the japanese or squier ones?

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Re: Fender Vintera line?

Post by alexpigment » Sun Jul 07, 2019 8:49 pm

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Do the MIM jazzmasters come with good shielding in the cavities and decent electronics, or is it just the spray on conductive paint like the japanese or squier ones?
It’s black shielding paint. I can’t think of any Fender guitars that come with copper tape. Having said that, I think shielding paint is fine in practice. The electronics in MIMs are usually a little higher end than MIJ/Squier.

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Re: Fender Vintera line?

Post by 601210 » Mon Jul 08, 2019 12:48 am

alexpigment wrote:
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Sun Jul 07, 2019 8:07 pm
Do the MIM jazzmasters come with good shielding in the cavities and decent electronics, or is it just the spray on conductive paint like the japanese or squier ones?
It’s black shielding paint. I can’t think of any Fender guitars that come with copper tape. Having said that, I think shielding paint is fine in practice. The electronics in MIMs are usually a little higher end than MIJ/Squier.
Do people really think shielding paint is worse than copper tape? I'd have thought it the other way around since copper tape can come unstuck, etc.

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Re: Fender Vintera line?

Post by mcbrandt » Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:10 am

So pretty much no matter what jazzmaster i buy, from squier up to american original '60s, i'd have to do some upgrading like faraday cage-ing to kill some buzz?

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Re: Fender Vintera line?

Post by Danley » Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:11 am

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So pretty much no matter what jazzmaster i buy, from squier up to american original '60s, i'd have to do some upgrading like faraday cage-ing to kill some buzz?
American Special Jazzmasters have hum-canceling pickups.
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Re: Fender Vintera line?

Post by leokula » Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:34 am

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So pretty much no matter what jazzmaster i buy, from squier up to american original '60s, i'd have to do some upgrading like faraday cage-ing to kill some buzz?
Single coil pickups hum, period. Shielding helps, but doesn't eliminate it.
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Re: Fender Vintera line?

Post by mcbrandt » Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:15 am

leokula wrote:
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mcbrandt wrote:
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So pretty much no matter what jazzmaster i buy, from squier up to american original '60s, i'd have to do some upgrading like faraday cage-ing to kill some buzz?
Single coil pickups hum, period. Shielding helps, but doesn't eliminate it.
Yeah, I know that. Just curious which ones hum less 'out of the box'.

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Re: Fender Vintera line?

Post by matthew a » Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:25 am

A Jazzmaster without hum? Buy an SG jnr :P or a noise gate?

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Re: Fender Vintera line?

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leokula wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:34 am
mcbrandt wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:10 am
So pretty much no matter what jazzmaster i buy, from squier up to american original '60s, i'd have to do some upgrading like faraday cage-ing to kill some buzz?
Single coil pickups hum, period. Shielding helps, but doesn't eliminate it.
You know what eliminates single coil hum? Drummers. Especially cymbals.
I'm sure some Fender dealer in '64 looked at the new Duo-Sonic II and thought, "That's not a Duo-Sonic. That's a Mustang".

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Re: Fender Vintera line?

Post by mcbrandt » Mon Jul 08, 2019 11:03 am

vistavision wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:41 am
leokula wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:34 am
mcbrandt wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:10 am
So pretty much no matter what jazzmaster i buy, from squier up to american original '60s, i'd have to do some upgrading like faraday cage-ing to kill some buzz?
Single coil pickups hum, period. Shielding helps, but doesn't eliminate it.
You know what eliminates single coil hum? Drummers. Especially cymbals.
Ha. That doesn't help when I'm trying to play/record mellow 'jazz' over a looping pedal.

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Re: Fender Vintera line?

Post by alexpigment » Mon Jul 08, 2019 2:15 pm

Well, if your place is anything like mine, no amount of shielding is going to get rid of the hum. If you're interested, you can get a 3rd pickup for your Jazzmaster and use it as a dummy coil. Ideally you just buy the same pickup as your current bridge pickup (eBay, Reverb, etc), then put it in place of your current neck pickup. Now your two pickups have the same winding direction and magnet polarity. Next, wire the original neck pickup in series between your 3-way toggle switch and your volume pot (ground wire of the pickup goes to the hot wire lug of the switch, hot wire from pickup goes to the volume pot), and the hum will be cancelled in all positions without significantly affecting your tone. Just my 2 cents.

Note: this works better with a tele or strat pickup as the dummy coil in my experience, but I just recommended the most economical method.

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Re: Fender Vintera line?

Post by smalahove » Mon Jul 08, 2019 2:29 pm

Seen the IBM JM, haven't seen any pics or video of the OTM jag ... Maybe it's not come out of the factory yet?

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Re: Fender Vintera line?

Post by akpasta » Tue Jul 16, 2019 10:52 am

alexpigment wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:28 pm
Are there that many people that prefer 7.25" and vintage frets? Am I off base here?
I do. One of the best things about the Johnny Marr Jag is the neck. I much prefer them. Also, don't need to be doing much bending personally and certainly never above the 12th fret! yeeesh!
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Re: Fender Vintera line?

Post by akpasta » Tue Jul 16, 2019 10:55 am

601210 wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:59 am
I wish Fender would get their lines straightened out.

Just do one for vintage reissues, one for standards, one for premium standards, and then seasonal random mishmashes like they like to do so much. Maybe if a mishmash gets popular they can move it into standards.

Over here we know all the ins and outs of Jazzmasters and Jaguars because there aren't that many anyways, but if you're trying to figure out which Tele or which Jazz Bass to buy with no prior knowledge it gets really annoying.
They do things this way because they need new things to market every so often.

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