Fender Vintera line?

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Re: Fender Vintera line?

Post by Maggieo » Tue Jul 02, 2019 8:11 am

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And yet these models still have a Polyester finish rather than a Lacquer one.

It's great to see a more affordable vintage style JM though.
That's in keeping with the transition from the Classic Series to the Vintera Series. Poly to poly. Maybe they'll do nitro versions next year?
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Re: Fender Vintera line?

Post by gusgorman » Tue Jul 02, 2019 9:14 am

Maggieo wrote:
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Tue Jul 02, 2019 7:33 am
And yet these models still have a Polyester finish rather than a Lacquer one.

It's great to see a more affordable vintage style JM though.
That's in keeping with the transition from the Classic Series to the Vintera Series. Poly to poly. Maybe they'll do nitro versions next year?
The classic series JM was nitro though. But.... I see your point, its kinda brought the classic series JM in line with the classic series Strats and Teles.

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Re: Fender Vintera line?

Post by alexpigment » Tue Jul 02, 2019 9:23 am

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Tue Jul 02, 2019 9:14 am
The classic series JM was nitro though. But.... I see your point, its kinda brought the classic series JM in line with the classic series Strats and Teles.
To be fair, I don't think they really had a true Classic series Jazzmaster. It was called the "60's Jazzmaster Lacquer" and only released a few years ago after all the other Classic and Classic Player models were released. Not trying to be pedantic - just kinda pointing out that the lacquer version always seemed to exist outside of the Classic series, and the price point reflected that as well. I believe they said that they will be releasing Road Worn and Lacquer options of various guitars as "limited edition" versions though.

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Re: Fender Vintera line?

Post by cestlamort » Tue Jul 02, 2019 9:40 am

Petty first reaction to the name: Vintera sounds like some YA dystopian lite sci-fi series.

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Re: Fender Vintera line?

Post by matthew a » Tue Jul 02, 2019 1:10 pm

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No Vinteras for left handed players?
There is a non-Japanese offset available left handed for what could be the first time since disco. Whilst I'd love some of these Vintera lines l/h, we have to take these small victories when we can.

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Re: Fender Vintera line?

Post by alexpigment » Tue Jul 02, 2019 2:26 pm

matthew a wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 1:10 pm
There is a non-Japanese offset available left handed for what could be the first time since disco. Whilst I'd love some of these Vintera lines l/h, we have to take these small victories when we can.
I have a feeling Fender just doesn't want to do a machine run on the tremolo units. Everything else should be pretty easy to do in house.

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Re: Fender Vintera line?

Post by invisible man » Tue Jul 02, 2019 8:07 pm

Maybe this is old news, but I was drooling over... I mean studying a Vintera IBM JM On Reverb, and the tremolo arm has the graceful curve of a vintage Fender or Staytrem. I’m used to seeing the sharp bent angle on new Fenders, at least that is what was on my RWJM before I Staytrem’ed it. Is that something new, or is it maybe common on US made Fenders. I don’t look at those a lot, a little out of my reach right now.

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Re: Fender Vintera line?

Post by gusgorman » Tue Jul 02, 2019 10:46 pm

alexpigment wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 9:23 am
gusgorman wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 9:14 am
The classic series JM was nitro though. But.... I see your point, its kinda brought the classic series JM in line with the classic series Strats and Teles.
To be fair, I don't think they really had a true Classic series Jazzmaster. It was called the "60's Jazzmaster Lacquer" and only released a few years ago after all the other Classic and Classic Player models were released. Not trying to be pedantic - just kinda pointing out that the lacquer version always seemed to exist outside of the Classic series, and the price point reflected that as well. I believe they said that they will be releasing Road Worn and Lacquer options of various guitars as "limited edition" versions though.
No - it was called the Classic Series 60s Jazzmaster. It had *exactly* the same naming convention as the strats.

https://reverb.com/p/fender-classic-ser ... er-lacquer

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Re: Fender Vintera line?

Post by alexpigment » Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:53 am

gusgorman wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 10:46 pm
No - it was called the Classic Series 60s Jazzmaster. It had *exactly* the same naming convention as the strats.

https://reverb.com/p/fender-classic-ser ... er-lacquer
As you can see in the Reverb listing, none of the sellers agree what the name is :) For context, I was going by the official name on the Fender site as well as what Sweetwater and other major sellers called it.

https://shop.fender.com/en-US/electric- ... 13757.html

At any rate, my point was specifically about the presence of the word "Lacquer" being in the title itself, which you can see in almost every listing of the guitar. They never had a non-lacquer version to be in line with the rest of the standard (polyurethane) Classic Series guitars. They have that now with the Vintera series.

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Re: Fender Vintera line?

Post by aliendawg » Wed Jul 03, 2019 11:01 am

Maybe they'll only offer nitro/Lacquer finishes in American guitars now
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Re: Fender Vintera line?

Post by alexpigment » Wed Jul 03, 2019 11:58 am

aliendawg wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2019 11:01 am
Maybe they'll only offer nitro/Lacquer finishes in American guitars now
Alan at Fender confirmed that the Road Worn series will still be using lacquer and be released as "limited edition". He was less forthright about the non-relic'd "Lacquer" models returning, but didn't rule it out. Source: I sat through that whole 45 minute video on Andertons a few days ago ;)

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Re: Fender Vintera line?

Post by Futuron » Wed Jul 03, 2019 5:17 pm

alexpigment wrote:
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I sat through that whole 45 minute video on Andertons a few days ago ;)
Was going to say that it didn't feel that long, but then I remembered that I skipped a fair bit of the jamming.
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Re: Fender Vintera line?

Post by alexpigment » Wed Jul 03, 2019 6:23 pm

Futuron wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2019 5:17 pm
Was going to say that it didn't feel that long, but then I remembered that I skipped a fair bit of the jamming.
Yep. Somewhere in that video, Lee asked him about why they kept the 7.25" radius on the guitars, which was my original concern about this series. You can see him bend up a little more than a step on the ~15th fret on the high E string and it chokes out. That's generally where the problem always happens, but I guess it could be mitigated with an expert setup to allow almost a step and a half.

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Re: Fender Vintera line?

Post by gusgorman » Thu Jul 04, 2019 5:13 am

alexpigment wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:53 am
gusgorman wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 10:46 pm
No - it was called the Classic Series 60s Jazzmaster. It had *exactly* the same naming convention as the strats.

https://reverb.com/p/fender-classic-ser ... er-lacquer
As you can see in the Reverb listing, none of the sellers agree what the name is :) For context, I was going by the official name on the Fender site as well as what Sweetwater and other major sellers called it.

https://shop.fender.com/en-US/electric- ... 13757.html

At any rate, my point was specifically about the presence of the word "Lacquer" being in the title itself, which you can see in almost every listing of the guitar. They never had a non-lacquer version to be in line with the rest of the standard (polyurethane) Classic Series guitars. They have that now with the Vintera series.
Yep cool! Totally get what you are saying now.

btw, the last thing I want to do is be another internet idiot being picky about nothing and being wrong at the same time, so sorry if I was heading that way!

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Re: Fender Vintera line?

Post by Pacafeliz » Thu Jul 04, 2019 8:08 am

I'd SO jump on one of those baby blue or fiesta red Tele Customs (look so darn good with mint guard) but they've not got the maple fretboard !!! :'(
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