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Re: NGD: Wildwood 10 Relic Ready Jazzmaster

Post by min7b5 » Mon Jul 08, 2019 1:08 pm

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Not much of a photographer, but here's a quick, crappy cell phone photo of my two favorites...
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Love the look of a maple fretboard. Wish my JMJM had it.
What type of bridge is that?

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Re: NGD: Wildwood 10 Relic Ready Jazzmaster

Post by Tafarel » Mon Jul 08, 2019 1:19 pm

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Mon Jul 08, 2019 1:08 pm
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Thu Jul 04, 2019 2:19 pm
Not much of a photographer, but here's a quick, crappy cell phone photo of my two favorites...
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Love the look of a maple fretboard. Wish my JMJM had it.
What type of bridge is that?
It's the Fender RSD bridge -- unfortunately, only available on a JM or Jag. I have tried to order ones for my other JMs to no avail. >:(
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Re: NGD: Wildwood 10 Relic Ready Jazzmaster

Post by min7b5 » Mon Jul 08, 2019 1:38 pm

Tafarel wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2019 1:19 pm
min7b5 wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2019 1:08 pm
Tafarel wrote:
Thu Jul 04, 2019 2:19 pm
Not much of a photographer, but here's a quick, crappy cell phone photo of my two favorites...
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Love the look of a maple fretboard. Wish my JMJM had it.
What type of bridge is that?
It's the Fender RSD bridge -- unfortunately, only available on a JM or Jag. I have tried to order ones for my other JMs to no avail. >:(
Ah, one of those things eh. Very annoying. Looks neat, it doesn't rock I'm guessing, so it looks like a Mustang bridge, but operates like a AOM/mastery?

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Re: NGD: Wildwood 10 Relic Ready Jazzmaster

Post by RocknRollShakeUp » Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:19 pm

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I use .010 - .052. D’addario NYXL. I like the tone and stability I get with them.
Sounds good. For some reason I have never actually gotten around to using a top heavy/light bottom type set like that. But now that I'm getting more into JM's I should try it.

No issues with uneven tension across the neck I am assuming correct?
None. These guitars are more stable than my CS Les Paul Special with a baseball bat neck. The sound one can get from that heavy 'E' string is one of my favorite things about this guitar and its sound. With the RSD bridge it's a perfect match. Did I mention that I play through a Supro Thunderbolt? This and the JM together are a marriage made in heaven. The soft response of the TBolt really makes the JM sound stand out. Did you mention what amp you play through?
Yeah I've had 11's on my other Jazzmaster and I did love the tonal wallop and heavy twang that the low wound strings gave me for sure. Then I went with 12 flats for it where it is now.

I think it is time to attempt the best of both worlds by going with 10-52s on my Shell Pink guitar, which was going to be my fast player and country bends JM, so I liked the 10s on it but mainly because of the easier playability of the unwound strings that allowed nice bending, but yeah the 36 and 46 A and E do feel a little wimpy.

Those Supros are really cool. I've come close to getting a few of their different models. I currently play through a dual mono and stereo rig (depending on my presets) using a Vintage Sound 15 (15 watt Princeton clone but with a 12" speakers, full tone stack, and bigger reverb tank) and a Goodsell Super 17 Mark IV (17watt EL84 amp that is like a 60's blackface fender meets Vox, but it really it's its own thing). Huge tone out of this set up.

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Re: NGD: Wildwood 10 Relic Ready Jazzmaster

Post by Tafarel » Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:56 am

min7b5 wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2019 1:38 pm
Tafarel wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2019 1:19 pm
min7b5 wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2019 1:08 pm

Love the look of a maple fretboard. Wish my JMJM had it.
What type of bridge is that?
It's the Fender RSD bridge -- unfortunately, only available on a JM or Jag. I have tried to order ones for my other JMs to no avail. >:(
Ah, one of those things eh. Very annoying. Looks neat, it doesn't rock I'm guessing, so it looks like a Mustang bridge, but operates like a AOM/mastery?
It does rock just like the regular JM bridge, but the saddles and platform for the strings make all the difference in stability, I think.
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Re: NGD: Wildwood 10 Relic Ready Jazzmaster

Post by Tafarel » Tue Jul 09, 2019 6:00 am

RocknRollShakeUp wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:19 pm
Tafarel wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2019 12:40 pm
RocknRollShakeUp wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2019 8:51 am


Sounds good. For some reason I have never actually gotten around to using a top heavy/light bottom type set like that. But now that I'm getting more into JM's I should try it.

No issues with uneven tension across the neck I am assuming correct?
None. These guitars are more stable than my CS Les Paul Special with a baseball bat neck. The sound one can get from that heavy 'E' string is one of my favorite things about this guitar and its sound. With the RSD bridge it's a perfect match. Did I mention that I play through a Supro Thunderbolt? This and the JM together are a marriage made in heaven. The soft response of the TBolt really makes the JM sound stand out. Did you mention what amp you play through?
Those Supros are really cool. I've come close to getting a few of their different models. I currently play through a dual mono and stereo rig (depending on my presets) using a Vintage Sound 15 (15 watt Princeton clone but with a 12" speakers, full tone stack, and bigger reverb tank) and a Goodsell Super 17 Mark IV (17watt EL84 amp that is like a 60's blackface fender meets Vox, but it really it's its own thing). Huge tone out of this set up.
I had a Goodsell Super 17 Mark II. I loved it, but I was playing in a band with a guy who was playing through a Hayseed AC30 clone with Celestion Blues and he always had to be the loudest guy in the band. He just buried me in the mix. He would never turn down. In fact, after his constant complaints that I was 'too loud' on stage, I turned my volume to zero and played the second half of the gig silently. He gave me a big thumbs up that it was perfect at that point. What an arse!

Do you run a lot of pedals? I play with a stereo setup at practice -- I also have a Thunderbolt Plus -- but I guess I am too lazy to haul them both to gigs. The Vintage Sound is intriguing because I love Princeton Reverbs until I get in a band situation and they simply don't move enough air. The 12" speaker should sort that out. Nobody around here sells them, AFAIK, otherwise I would try one.
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Re: NGD: Wildwood 10 Relic Ready Jazzmaster

Post by Debaser » Tue Jul 09, 2019 6:31 am

Congrats, great JM and if you don't want that bridge anymore...I'll buy it :D
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Re: NGD: Wildwood 10 Relic Ready Jazzmaster

Post by RocknRollShakeUp » Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:34 am

Tafarel wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:56 am
min7b5 wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2019 1:38 pm
Tafarel wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2019 1:19 pm

It's the Fender RSD bridge -- unfortunately, only available on a JM or Jag. I have tried to order ones for my other JMs to no avail. >:(
Ah, one of those things eh. Very annoying. Looks neat, it doesn't rock I'm guessing, so it looks like a Mustang bridge, but operates like a AOM/mastery?
It does rock just like the regular JM bridge, but the saddles and platform for the strings make all the difference in stability, I think.
I haven't checked this with any semblance of accuracy, but just based on moving it back and forth it seems like the RSD doesn't have a rocking range that is as big as the regular type JM bridges. The reason is that the posts seem to be much fatter, but I haven't even taken it out of the guitar yet to actually check this. But I think this is a good thing as the RSD moves more than enough to give a very nice floating tremolo action, and yet even when I rocked it back all the way to the tail end and kept it there just to see how the guitar behaved, I didn't notice a change in intonation to the point that it required resetting intonation, at least for me.

Have you had a chance to check the rocking range compared to the more traditional JM bridges?

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Re: NGD: Wildwood 10 Relic Ready Jazzmaster

Post by RocknRollShakeUp » Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:05 am

Tafarel wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2019 6:00 am
RocknRollShakeUp wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:19 pm
Tafarel wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2019 12:40 pm

None. These guitars are more stable than my CS Les Paul Special with a baseball bat neck. The sound one can get from that heavy 'E' string is one of my favorite things about this guitar and its sound. With the RSD bridge it's a perfect match. Did I mention that I play through a Supro Thunderbolt? This and the JM together are a marriage made in heaven. The soft response of the TBolt really makes the JM sound stand out. Did you mention what amp you play through?
Those Supros are really cool. I've come close to getting a few of their different models. I currently play through a dual mono and stereo rig (depending on my presets) using a Vintage Sound 15 (15 watt Princeton clone but with a 12" speakers, full tone stack, and bigger reverb tank) and a Goodsell Super 17 Mark IV (17watt EL84 amp that is like a 60's blackface fender meets Vox, but it really it's its own thing). Huge tone out of this set up.
I had a Goodsell Super 17 Mark II. I loved it, but I was playing in a band with a guy who was playing through a Hayseed AC30 clone with Celestion Blues and he always had to be the loudest guy in the band. He just buried me in the mix. He would never turn down. In fact, after his constant complaints that I was 'too loud' on stage, I turned my volume to zero and played the second half of the gig silently. He gave me a big thumbs up that it was perfect at that point. What an arse!

Do you run a lot of pedals? I play with a stereo setup at practice -- I also have a Thunderbolt Plus -- but I guess I am too lazy to haul them both to gigs. The Vintage Sound is intriguing because I love Princeton Reverbs until I get in a band situation and they simply don't move enough air. The 12" speaker should sort that out. Nobody around here sells them, AFAIK, otherwise I would try one.
Wow what a nightmare band mate scenario...indeed what an asshat!

I've been on a gigging hiatus from full traditional line ups for a while now and it is reminders like that that makes me not miss it as much :blush: :whistle: But when it works it is hard to beat.

While I am focusing mostly on recording projects, I am in my "Beatles recording only phase" now :D.
But I am working on a project where it will just be me and a keyboard player and we are planning gigs. So, I get to have my two amp stereo/dual mono set up and not have to get into a volume war! But I do want to fill up some good sonic real estate, and have a stereo option, hence the two amps and I also will be using my big pedal board.

Here is my pedal board last time I took a picture of it, but now it will get a second H9, and I am trying out different gain pedals, etc. For that last recording project I used really high gain, but for this latest thing I will need clean, edge of break up, and more rarely up to moderate gain, and a few different fuzz tones. I'm trying to have tones ala Johnny Marr, Surf, Spaghetti Western, British Invasion and Garage tones. So amps set clean to just edge of break up and then all pedals.
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I really do love my Vintage 15. I also have a Deluxe Reverb clone from them, a Vintage 22 which is also a super amp. I ended up getting mine from Atlanta Discount Music, in Atlanta, when I used to live in Athens, GA. Humbucker Music sells them too and I think they ship all over the place..but of course I'd recommend playing one first to make sure you like it.
But I have to admit, in full rocknroll band context, with a loud drummer, a second guitarist...man, I think I'd go back to at least 35 watt amps, although if I needed to I can pump out a decent amount of volume running the Vintage 15 and Goodsell both.
Last full on rocknroll band I was in, and after a few volume wars with various bands, I was using either a 100 watt Fender Tonemaster, an '81 100watt vertical input JCM800, or a '78 100watt JMP, with a Marshall 4x12 cabinet. I was sensitive to a good balanced mix, but I had the ammunition if it came down to a good ol' fashion volume war :D

How is the Supro as a pedal platform?

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Re: NGD: Wildwood 10 Relic Ready Jazzmaster

Post by RocknRollShakeUp » Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:06 am

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Congrats, great JM and if you don't want that bridge anymore...I'll buy it :D
The Fender CS really ought to sell these.

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Re: NGD: Wildwood 10 Relic Ready Jazzmaster

Post by Tafarel » Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:23 am

I really do love my Vintage 15. I also have a Deluxe Reverb clone from them, a Vintage 22 which is also a super amp. I ended up getting mine from Atlanta Discount Music, in Atlanta, when I used to live in Athens, GA. Humbucker Music sells them too and I think they ship all over the place..but of course I'd recommend playing one first to make sure you like it.
But I have to admit, in full rocknroll band context, with a loud drummer, a second guitarist...man, I think I'd go back to at least 35 watt amps, although if I needed to I can pump out a decent amount of volume running the Vintage 15 and Goodsell both.
Last full on rocknroll band I was in, and after a few volume wars with various bands, I was using either a 100 watt Fender Tonemaster, an '81 100watt vertical input JCM800, or a '78 100watt JMP, with a Marshall 4x12 cabinet. I was sensitive to a good balanced mix, but I had the ammunition if it came down to a good ol' fashion volume war :D

How is the Supro as a pedal platform?
I like it because it has great low end due to the 15" speaker. It handles everything I put into it. The Thunderbolt Plus is an even better pedal platform with the different rectifier settings -- the 60 watt setting being particularly solid. I only have about ten pedals on my board -- nothing compared to your splendid array. For edge of breakup I am using the Hudson Electronics Broadcast, which I like only slightly better than the Benson Amps Preamp pedal -- it was a narrow decision.

I have tried Deluxe Reverbs (too sterile), Fender Vibrolux (flabby low end; I tried about three different pairs of 10" speakers for it -- none were satisfactory), Marshall 2061x (not enough clarity), Milkman One-Watt Pluss (not loud enough in a band context, but a great amp nevertheless), and a Fender Vibro-King (glorious, but awkward and heavy). The last was the best pedal platform I've ever been able to use, but it was just too much in every regard. If I had roadies that would be my choice. The Supro TBolt sounds great, just not quite as complex due to having only one speaker, but I'm not crying about it.

I bought a guitar at Humbucker music once upon a time. It is/was a great shop.
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Re: NGD: Wildwood 10 Relic Ready Jazzmaster

Post by Tafarel » Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:24 am

RocknRollShakeUp wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:06 am
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Congrats, great JM and if you don't want that bridge anymore...I'll buy it :D
The Fender CS really ought to sell these.
Too right. I will second that.
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Re: NGD: Wildwood 10 Relic Ready Jazzmaster

Post by RocknRollShakeUp » Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:41 pm

Tafarel wrote:
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I like it because it has great low end due to the 15" speaker. It handles everything I put into it. The Thunderbolt Plus is an even better pedal platform with the different rectifier settings -- the 60 watt setting being particularly solid. I only have about ten pedals on my board -- nothing compared to your splendid array. For edge of breakup I am using the Hudson Electronics Broadcast, which I like only slightly better than the Benson Amps Preamp pedal -- it was a narrow decision.

I have tried Deluxe Reverbs (too sterile), Fender Vibrolux (flabby low end; I tried about three different pairs of 10" speakers for it -- none were satisfactory), Marshall 2061x (not enough clarity), Milkman One-Watt Pluss (not loud enough in a band context, but a great amp nevertheless), and a Fender Vibro-King (glorious, but awkward and heavy). The last was the best pedal platform I've ever been able to use, but it was just too much in every regard. If I had roadies that would be my choice. The Supro TBolt sounds great, just not quite as complex due to having only one speaker, but I'm not crying about it.

I bought a guitar at Humbucker music once upon a time. It is/was a great shop.
Nice breakdown of a very diverse tonal journey that you’ve had! I’ve always wanted a Vibro King too! But now I don’t need the power or size.. I’ve sold all of my 100 waters and only have the small combos, with the Vintage 22 (watt) being my biggest amp currently that I don’t even use.

BTW, on other fronts, I’ve changed my wound strings on my Shell Pink JM from a 10 gauge set to the D A and E of a NYXL balanced 11-50 set I had, so now It’s a 10-50 set up and I’m super digging it. I think this may be my go to JM string set up. I need to see if I can buy a hybrid set like this from somewhere.

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Re: NGD: Wildwood 10 Relic Ready Jazzmaster

Post by mackerelmint » Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:37 am

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I know a lot of people hate the RSD bridge but I think it's great
YOU'RE WRONG!
This is an excellent rectangle

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Post by mackerelmint » Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:39 am

I'd like to steal every single one of those bridges and melt them into a big ugly blob, then go use that blob to bash Fender's RSD bridge making machines to bits, melt those into the blob, and chain it to the designer's ankle and toss him in the bay for the sharks to eat.
This is an excellent rectangle

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