jagmaster? neck conversion help

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jagmaster? neck conversion help

Post by jmxxx » Sun Aug 09, 2009 9:27 pm

so i hear that the third gen jagmaster has a conversion neck?
can you go buy a jagmaster off the shelf and put a standard long scale neck (25) as opposed to (24) from what i understand a conversion neck means that the body is long scale routed yet the neck compensates with less or more frets to make it short scale with out moving the routes.
does this work ? i do not have the funds to get a vista or second gen jagmaster, but want the long scale jagmaster

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Re: jagmaster? neck conversion help

Post by TheBurbz » Mon Aug 10, 2009 8:18 am

You are correct, a modern Jagaster with a conversion neck will be able to use a 25.5" scale neck. The dimension from the bridge to neck pocket is set up as 25.5" scale, hence the need to use a conversion neck (or full scale neck).

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Re: jagmaster? neck conversion help

Post by jmxxx » Mon Aug 10, 2009 3:21 pm

ok thank you for the answer it seems odd that they would use a conversion neck wouldnt that be more expensive than just a standard size neck

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Re: jagmaster? neck conversion help

Post by gutter rock » Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:41 pm

I think Fender went to the conversion neck to claim 24" scale again. The jagmaster was supposed to be a mix of jazzy and Jag, hence the name. The concept was Jag neck, jazzy body, humbuckers, and strat trem. The 2nd gen jagmaster went to a 25.5 neck which negated any Jag-ness about the guitar... the name didn't make sense anymore imo! So 3rd gen jagmasters went back to 24" scale with a conversion neck, which at least tries to have a key Jag feature in the mix! Just my theory!

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Re: jagmaster? neck conversion help

Post by Black Cat Bone » Fri Aug 14, 2009 3:31 am

Does that mean one of these conversion necks could go on a strat and turn it into a 24" scale and still intonate???

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Re: jagmaster? neck conversion help

Post by dug » Fri Aug 14, 2009 5:17 am

Yes it does my friend. :)

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Re: jagmaster? neck conversion help

Post by TheBurbz » Fri Aug 14, 2009 7:58 am

Yes, exactly right. I've been looking for a Jagmaster neck to turn my Strat into 24" scale but I don't think people like to part them out :(

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Re: jagmaster? neck conversion help

Post by blueavenger » Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:30 am

TheBurbz wrote:Yes, exactly right. I've been looking for a Jagmaster neck to turn my Strat into 24" scale but I don't think people like to part them out :(
Warmoth does a gibby scale conversion neck. Not what you're looking for, but maybe worth taking a flyer on?

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Re: jagmaster? neck conversion help

Post by TheBurbz » Fri Aug 14, 2009 4:49 pm

blueavenger wrote:
TheBurbz wrote:Yes, exactly right. I've been looking for a Jagmaster neck to turn my Strat into 24" scale but I don't think people like to part them out :(
Warmoth does a gibby scale conversion neck. Not what you're looking for, but maybe worth taking a flyer on?
Yeah, this is going to be my 'plan B'. I used to have a Jagmaster and loved the neck on it, I'm a smallish guy so 24" suits me best but I very much doubt I'll ever find a Jagmaster neck for sale. Unless I buy a Jagmaster, fit it with a full scale neck and then keep the shorter neck...it's a lot of trouble to go to though :)

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Re: jagmaster? neck conversion help

Post by Black Cat Bone » Tue Aug 18, 2009 3:55 am

Hhmmm those warmoth necks are quite expensive and I've heard enough about them to be a bit wary about putting my money that way. I'm also in the UK so the import cost alone makes this a heavy idea. I'd love to get my hand on a couple of conversion neck at some point in the next 6 months for a strat and a strat-a-like i own. Preferably with a small nut midth too! Wasn't there a member here who made conversion necks too?

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Re: jagmaster? neck conversion help

Post by jmxxx » Tue Aug 18, 2009 5:08 am

i mean looking around on ebay you could probably get a "project" jagmaster for fairly cheap and just keep the body lying around while you use the conversion neck. im very wary of short scale neck as i play several different different bands, and i can just tune down to get the slinky feel but you cant very much tighten up a short scale guitar. plus i have huge hands and am pretty big so it feels toyish ;D

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Re: jagmaster? neck conversion help

Post by Red Jazzmaster » Tue Aug 18, 2009 10:42 am

Hey Burbz,
You got the right idea. Just buy a 24" scale Jagmaster, swap the necks with your Strat and you'll be left with a short scale Strat and a full scale Jagmaster, which you could in turn sell, but I bet you'd wanna keep it :)

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Re: jagmaster? neck conversion help

Post by dug » Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:19 am

Red Jazzmaster wrote:Hey Burbz,
You got the right idea. Just buy a 24" scale Jagmaster, swap the necks with your Strat and you'll be left with a short scale Strat and a full scale Jagmaster, which you could in turn sell, but I bet you'd wanna keep it :)
You have to get the newest version of the jagmaster. The vista series with a true 24'' scale wouldn't work. The second series had a 25.5" neck.
so make sure you get the right one.

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Re: jagmaster? neck conversion help

Post by tincob » Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:38 am

jmxxx wrote:i mean looking around on ebay you could probably get a "project" jagmaster for fairly cheap and just keep the body lying around while you use the conversion neck. im very wary of short scale neck as i play several different different bands, and i can just tune down to get the slinky feel but you cant very much tighten up a short scale guitar. plus i have huge hands and am pretty big so it feels toyish ;D
I have a search saved on my ebay for a cheap "project" jagmaster. They just don't exist my friend.

For a slow selling Squier, the used jagmaster seems to sell for a decent price. It's very difficult to find a cheap beater.

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Re: jagmaster? neck conversion help

Post by Red Jazzmaster » Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:43 am

I found one on the Chicago craigslist today. Not a beater by any stretch from the looks of it. It's the most current 24" version and the guy only wants $150 for it. I got mine for that and they don't seem to sell for any less than that anywhere.

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