Nash Jazzmaster

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Re: Nash Jazzmaster

Post by Jay » Tue Oct 03, 2006 3:01 pm

Yeah, what's with that arm rash? It's way too far forward.  At least its not jsut on the edge (I rarely see a JM with rash just on the edge but that's always where the fake rash is) but someone would have played the guitar at their knees to get a lot of rash there.

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Re: Nash Jazzmaster

Post by chrisjedijane » Tue Oct 03, 2006 5:14 pm

I know that the arm rash on the black JM looks weird, but that's exactly where the rash will be occurring on my JM in a couple of years' time - I don't play it real low or anything, it's just the way I play it.
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Re: Nash Jazzmaster

Post by Stereordinary » Tue Oct 03, 2006 7:13 pm

So I guess this Nash guy makes relic'd Fender repros?  ???
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Re: Nash Jazzmaster

Post by Marc » Tue Oct 03, 2006 11:51 pm

They look pretty pants in my opinion.

I cannot stand tha "Dale Winton" vintage amber tint in the neck finish... totally unrealistic. :P
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Re: Nash Jazzmaster

Post by mynameisjonas » Wed Oct 04, 2006 12:05 am

Mad-Mike wrote: I recall reading about the original Fender Factory and how they used to make celluloid products, particularly the skin that goes over their lap steels and such, and how it was a dangerous process.  It was some interview with Leo from the vintage guitars book I believe, he said "the place was like a bomb", and that one time the fire inspector came over, took one look, and went across the street and phoned them from there with the report.
dangerous indeed. the way i understand it, you have to dissolve the celluloid in acetone to liquify it. and i would imagine it takes quite a lot of acetone to make a whole batch of pickguards.
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Re: Nash Jazzmaster

Post by Jay » Wed Oct 04, 2006 6:31 am

Marc wrote: They look pretty pants in my opinion.

I cannot stand tha "Dale Winton" vintage amber tint in the neck finish... totally unrealistic. :P
I actually have an original that's MORE orange then these.  I'll see if I can track down a pic...

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Re: Nash Jazzmaster

Post by fullerplast » Wed Oct 04, 2006 6:53 am

Not to crap on the thead - but I don't get the general fascination (not necessarily here) with this Nash guy. He's not a builder, he's an assembler. Nothing wrong with that, but how in the world did he gain a following? Anyone with a jobber account at a parts outlet could build one of these for around $400-$700, the flux depending mainly on the finish. Any of us could screw one together and probably not get the cost of the parts back for it, yet he gets big money for these things.  I realize it's because he has the name recognition, how he got that is what I don't understand.
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Re: Nash Jazzmaster

Post by mjet » Wed Oct 04, 2006 7:08 am

fullerplast wrote: Not to crap on the thead - but I don't get the general fascination (not necessarily here) with this Nash guy. He's not a builder, he's an assembler. Nothing wrong with that, but how in the world did he gain a following?
Well put. I hesitated to write anything because it would seem like I was bashing him - but the way you expressed it is perfect. Nothing against the guy, but why are people paying $1000+ for a guitar made up of components which anyone can buy? Oh well.
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Re: Nash Jazzmaster

Post by Maggieo » Wed Oct 04, 2006 7:14 am

mjet260 wrote:
fullerplast wrote: Not to crap on the thead - but I don't get the general fascination (not necessarily here) with this Nash guy. He's not a builder, he's an assembler. Nothing wrong with that, but how in the world did he gain a following?
Well put. I hesitated to write anything because it would seem like I was bashing him - but the way you expressed it is perfect. Nothing against the guy, but why are people paying $1000+ for a guitar made up of components which anyone can buy? Oh well.
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Re: Nash Jazzmaster

Post by Jay » Wed Oct 04, 2006 7:15 am

I'm amazed that Fender hasn't quashed him.  They seem to go to great lengths to protect their trademark and this Nash guy is making straight bootleg copies and selling them for a ton o' dough.  Not that I care one way or the other, I just find it odd that he's been allowed to continue.

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Re: Nash Jazzmaster

Post by mynameisjonas » Wed Oct 04, 2006 7:21 am

yeah, that´s really odd.  ???

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Re: Nash Jazzmaster

Post by fullerplast » Wed Oct 04, 2006 7:24 am

Well, he uses licensed parts available to the public, and I don't believe he sells them originally with a Fender decal on them. He doesn't advertise them as a Fender product. I don't think they (Fender) have any recourse.
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Re: Nash Jazzmaster

Post by mjet » Wed Oct 04, 2006 7:26 am

Jay wrote: I'm amazed that Fender hasn't quashed him.  They seem to go to great lengths to protect their trademark and this Nash guy is making straight bootleg copies and selling them for a ton o' dough.  Not that I care one way or the other, I just find it odd that he's been allowed to continue.
Actually I think they have. Check out the tone of this disclaimer from his website:

I do not sell Fender® guitars and I am in no way affiliated with FMIC / Fender®. Parts that look like Fender® designs are MFG under license by Fender. In fact, I am in no way affiliated with anyone or anything except for my wife and kids. If you are actually reading this much stuff on my site, please stop, turn off the computer and find something more fun to do with your time. A portion of the proceeds from your purchase may go to support the complete dismantling of the US Government. I have had enough taxation without representation - how about you? Are you better off than you were 10 years ago?

Since you are still reading on, turn in your cable TV box, unplug your television and seek healthy connections with other human beings. Stop ingesting the manipulations of corporations who's sole function is to make you feel inadequate without buying their products and ideas. A bigger wallet, faster car, smaller waistband or younger spouse will not make you happy.

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Nah, he's not bitter!  :-\  Sounds like the rantings of someone who has been contacted by way too many lawyers.
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Re: Nash Jazzmaster

Post by fullerplast » Wed Oct 04, 2006 7:51 am

Hehe.  :)  That's a funny disclaimer and I agree with you on the probable origin of it.
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Re: Nash Jazzmaster

Post by NickH » Wed Oct 04, 2006 7:53 am

I believe he used to have Fender decals on his guitars, and I think he recieved a order to knock it off. I am really not bothered either way by his stuff, but I don't think I would ever buy. As for reasons others might I guess some like the look and don't have or want to invest the time to create their own.

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