Is a mustang an offset?

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Re: Is a mustang an offset?

Post by Sauerkraut » Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:15 am

what's so new about these compared to the old ones in ishibashi's u-box?

http://www.ishibashi.co.jp/u_box/ubox.c ... &tid=list3

that one looks identical to these 'new' reissue's, could it be the same guitar?  (I'm thinking about buying it)
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Re: Is a mustang an offset?

Post by chrisjedijane » Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:20 am

my friend got one of the limited edition blonde/tortie CIJ mustangs a couple of months ago, and it's really really good. The neck's maybe a wee bit thin for my liking, but otherwise it's really good.
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Re: Is a mustang an offset?

Post by aen » Mon Oct 16, 2006 7:17 am

They have a different body wood (big deal  ::)) a simulated "shrunken pickguard" and, uh, some other stuff.  I guess they just rock harder.
I prefer their older stuff.

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Re: Is a mustang an offset?

Post by Sauerkraut » Mon Oct 16, 2006 8:53 am

I really wonder what the guitar I linked to could possibly be, it's named MG66-66, but Fender never made a '66 Mustang reissue. It's got the same decal as the '65 reissue but the tremolobar doesn't have the same shape as the '65 reissue.

so what could it be?

Fender Japan Mustangs:
http://www.fenderjapan.co.jp/fender/200 ... ustang.htm
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Re: Is a mustang an offset?

Post by aen » Mon Oct 16, 2006 9:11 am

I htink the previous mustangs were 66 or 69 reissues, but Ishibashi has all sorts of cool variations that weren't exported.
I prefer their older stuff.

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Re: Is a mustang an offset?

Post by Sauerkraut » Mon Oct 16, 2006 9:15 am

aen wrote: I htink the previous mustangs were 66 or 69 reissues, but Ishibashi has all sorts of cool variations that weren't exported.
ok so the new one is probably better?
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Re: Is a mustang an offset?

Post by fullerplast » Mon Oct 16, 2006 10:36 am

The new one (65) is poplar, all the others are basswood (according to that website).
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Re: Is a mustang an offset?

Post by Sauerkraut » Mon Oct 16, 2006 10:46 am

OK, I'm not buying it then.

thanks for clearing that up for me.
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Re: Is a mustang an offset?

Post by enormous » Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:41 pm

Is alder really that much more expensive than poplar?  I know a lot of people that are put off by the cheaper so called "lower quality" woods.  I honestly don't know how poplar sounds as a tone-wood, but I do know that I like the sound of alder so I usually stick with it. 

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Re: Is a mustang an offset?

Post by fullerplast » Mon Oct 16, 2006 4:05 pm

I've read that many of the original Mustangs were poplar.
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Re: Is a mustang an offset?

Post by donnyII » Mon Oct 16, 2006 4:27 pm

"Poplar (Liriodendron tulipifera):
This is another standard body wood having been used by many companies over the years. Due to the grey/green color, this wood is used mostly when solid color finishes are to be applied. Its weight generally runs about one half pound more than Alder. Tonally, it is similar to Alder as well. Poplar is a closed grain wood that accepts finish well."

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Re: Is a mustang an offset?

Post by robroe » Mon Oct 16, 2006 7:28 pm

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the fender japan version of this mustang is called the MG65-80
its been out in japan for 3 years now.


things that are differnt from other japan mustang offerings

proper F tuners with white plastic buttons
proper bridge saddles with no gaps.
its thinner
its heavier
its slab
it just feels solid as hell
pat. stamp on vibrato plate
pat's on headstock decal
neck plate is blank (f plates came around in 66)

the neck to me feels exactly the same, which is a good thing because 24" B width necks are my fav.

if any of you guys want specific comparison photos of any of this crap between mustangs let me know and i will take them.

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Re: Is a mustang an offset?

Post by Sauerkraut » Mon Oct 16, 2006 11:32 pm

enormous wrote: Is alder really that much more expensive than poplar?  I know a lot of people that are put off by the cheaper so called "lower quality" woods.  I honestly don't know how poplar sounds as a tone-wood, but I do know that I like the sound of alder so I usually stick with it. 
I'm actually OK with poplar but I'm put off by basswood.

Robroe, are the MG65-80's still in production? I can only find new MG69-72's and used MG69-65's and that MG66-66 on Ishibashi and on Fender Japan I find:
MG69-72
MG69-75
MG69-85CO
MG73-85CO
MG65-86 (the new, more accurate ones)
Do you know if MG65-80's were made out of poplar or basswood? And have they got MG-Single pickups or MG65-vintage pickups?
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Re: Is a mustang an offset?

Post by Sauerkraut » Mon Oct 16, 2006 11:40 pm

I just found out MG65-80 are poplar and have MG-vintage pickups meaning they're pretty much identical to the 'new' MG65-86's. I also found out that the MG65-80's were still being made this year. Could the MG65-86's actually be the exact same guitars but is Fender making it seem like they're new for marketing reasons? I think the only differences between a MG65-80 and a MG65-86 are the name and price tag.

here's a '06 MG65-80: http://www.smoky-m.com/fender-j-MG65-80DBL.html
I don't see how it's different from this MG65-86: http://www.smoky-m.com/fender-j-MG65-86.html
(except for the black armtip but I don't think it came out of the factory that way)
the specifications are the same aswell and they were both made in 2006, but still the MG65-86 is more expensive than the MG65-80.
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Re: Is a mustang an offset?

Post by NickH » Tue Oct 17, 2006 5:41 am

So based on some of the previous definitions I would assume that a Fender Performer be considered offset. It does have a very pronounced but.

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