Why I keep coming back to the Jaguar

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Re: Why I keep coming back to the Jaguar

Post by eggwheat » Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:08 pm

Taken me years to find a Jaguar I liked...finally I think I found one last year..the 'driftwood' '62 in fiesta red:

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Re: Why I keep coming back to the Jaguar

Post by Redstar30 » Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:21 pm

Your post came at a good time. I came to the conclusion ealier this week that "my sound" is a Jaguar thru a 100 watt Marshall JMP Master Volume head. After years of trying numerous guitars I always come back to my 65 and 62 Jags. I am thinking about selling the rest of my guitars to get another one.

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Re: Why I keep coming back to the Jaguar

Post by ifallalot » Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:04 pm

chnlone wrote:First guitar I ever owned and my only guitar for over half of my 33 years. I can play just fine on other guitars, but my playing always comes to life on my Jag.
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It feels like home and like there's limitless creativity to be found by either working with, or against, the quirks.
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Re: Why I keep coming back to the Jaguar

Post by The Dead Ranch Hands » Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:22 am

Now I really want to fix my botched target burst. This thing deserves a better finish.

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Re: Why I keep coming back to the Jaguar

Post by jakeisjake » Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:09 am

someone (a non musician) was in our music room recently and, looking at the guitars on the wall, said "which one do you play the most?".

i thought for a moment and said i really play them all fairly equally ... and i love them all (well, the 3 that were out--AVRI JM, TS Jag, Rimini 12 string). they all play different and sound different...

but, as i play them, riffs happen on the Jag that don't on the others...i think i like the sound of the JM more, but i love playing the Jaguar.
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Re: Why I keep coming back to the Jaguar

Post by Dok » Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:30 am

The Dead Ranch Hands wrote:Now I really want to fix my botched target burst. This thing deserves a better finish.

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Yes it does. How did that happen?
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Re: Why I keep coming back to the Jaguar

Post by The Dead Ranch Hands » Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:32 am

Dokterrock wrote:
Yes it does. How did that happen?
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Re: Why I keep coming back to the Jaguar

Post by garyptaszek » Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:26 am

I personally prefer longer scales rather then shorter scales... but something about the Jag just screams GAS at me. Part of me wants to make a long scale Jag but then I think I'd be cheating myself out of a 'real' Jag...

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Re: Why I keep coming back to the Jaguar

Post by vpich » Fri Apr 27, 2012 3:49 am

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Re: Why I keep coming back to the Jaguar

Post by Jaguar018 » Fri Apr 27, 2012 4:23 am

garyptaszek wrote:I personally prefer longer scales rather then shorter scales... but something about the Jag just screams GAS at me. Part of me wants to make a long scale Jag but then I think I'd be cheating myself out of a 'real' Jag...
I used to think that a Jaguar with a 25.5" scale would still sound a lot like a normal Jag... but it doesn't. There is something special about all the Jaguar's ingredients that makes it work.

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Re: Why I keep coming back to the Jaguar

Post by percnon » Fri Apr 27, 2012 4:46 am

Sorry,

Jazzmaster > Jaguar

For pickups and scale length alone. Though jags sure are pretty. I don't really understand how jags are meant to sound more unique than jms when they essentially just have strat pickups. The magic of the jm is in the unique pickups.

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Re: Why I keep coming back to the Jaguar

Post by eggwheat » Fri Apr 27, 2012 5:34 am

percnon wrote:Sorry,

Jazzmaster > Jaguar

For pickups and scale length alone. Though jags sure are pretty. I don't really understand how jags are meant to sound more unique than jms when they essentially just have strat pickups. The magic of the jm is in the unique pickups.
It's all down to the scale length...gives it a more plunky, percussive sound..nothing like a strat.

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Re: Why I keep coming back to the Jaguar

Post by The Dead Ranch Hands » Fri Apr 27, 2012 5:44 am

eggwheat wrote:
percnon wrote:Sorry,

Jazzmaster > Jaguar

For pickups and scale length alone. Though jags sure are pretty. I don't really understand how jags are meant to sound more unique than jms when they essentially just have strat pickups. The magic of the jm is in the unique pickups.
It's all down to the scale length...gives it a more plunky, percussive sound..nothing like a strat.
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If you put Jag pickups in a Strat, it would still sound like a Strat. They're essentially Strat pickups, but the short scale + shallow string angle + bright pickups really brings the plunk. It makes for a very unstratty sound. Which is the very reason why most people aren't into Jags.

There's not a night and day difference between Jags and Jazzmasters, though. They're in the same realm, but the Jag IMO has a more interesting sound.

I agree that Jazzmaster pickups are amazing, though. Nothing else like them.

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Re: Why I keep coming back to the Jaguar

Post by bword » Fri Apr 27, 2012 5:48 am

jakeisjake wrote:someone (a non musician) was in our music room recently and, looking at the guitars on the wall, said "which one do you play the most?".

i thought for a moment and said i really play them all fairly equally ... and i love them all (well, the 3 that were out--AVRI JM, TS Jag, Rimini 12 string). they all play different and sound different...

but, as i play them, riffs happen on the Jag that don't on the others...i think i like the sound of the JM more, but i love playing the Jaguar.
novak makes those jazzy pickups for the jag. no routing required just a new pickguard.

I think I dig them both equally though I've always been drawn to the jazzmaster scale and pickups
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Re: Why I keep coming back to the Jaguar

Post by Jaded » Fri Apr 27, 2012 5:58 am

percnon wrote:Sorry,

Jazzmaster > Jaguar

For pickups and scale length alone. Though jags sure are pretty. I don't really understand how jags are meant to sound more unique than jms when they essentially just have strat pickups. The magic of the jm is in the unique pickups.
I've got a stock Jaguar, one loaded with JM pickups, just sold a JM and have owned a few Strats. The stock Jag sounds absolutely nothing like a Strat (beyond sounding like a bright single coil guitar). The Jag with JM pickups still sounds like a Jaguar, just a little fatter/warmer but still more like a Jag than a JM. Try playing a Strat in the neck position then compare that to a Jaguar in the neck position, none of that "glassy" Strat sound to be found (IMO at least), they sound closer to a Jazzmaster (i guess thats the brighter pickups compensating for the "darker" short scale?).

Anyway aren't Jaguar pickups closer to a Tele bridge pickup? They're wound hotter than a Strat and the claws act like the baseplate.

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