Re: Best Replacement Jazzmaster Pickups
Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 4:48 am
Shouldn't Fender Vintage PUs (pre 1980) be in the list - it's certainly a valid upgrade for MIJ / CIJ users!
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Well that wouldn't exactly be a fair fight.scottme wrote: Shouldn't Fender Vintage PUs (pre 1980) be in the list - it's certainly a valid upgrade for MIJ / CIJ users!
Ya, I went out on a limb to prove all the Snake Oils Strings fans wrong a few years ago - that it was all hype. I was skeptical that they would make that much difference in sound but I figured I have given more money away to bums on the street so I could at least spend a few extra bucks on trying out some new strings... I was completely wrong - they are fantastic strings(for me at least). The string type and gague really have a marked difference on the sound of your guitar. Things like string composition, whether you have a wound 'g' string or not, and flatwound vs. roundwound can really change the makeup of your sound. I encourage everyone to try experimenting with different types of strings...jetset wrote: +1 on the strings. I used to scoff at string snobs, but I've become one - good nickel strings add a lot to the tone of a guitar. And 9's on a Jazzmaster is just silly.
-J
that's just what I meant with 'rounder' when describing the sound of the vintage neck-pickup, it sounds richer and fuller than the Lollar, which in turn sounds hotter and punchier.glimmertwin wrote: My 61 sounds a lot more rounded, fuller/rich, and a tad hotter.
CurtisNovak wrote:Scott I hope you dont mind me replying to this directly. It might seem stupid on my part to not just submit to the the sound clip thing and just post them. I just have a just have a personal issues w/ it to me is like buying a car after only test driving it over the net. The thing is there are way too many variables that determine tone of a pickup, from the body, neck, strings, amp, recording equipment, your computer speakers, and lastly and most importantly it the fingers and playing style of the player. I have gone in to a music store and played 6 identical new guitars and they all are a little different. I agree it is a nice "feel good" thing that likely helps sales and I should just submit to it, but I still hold out on principal. What I can direct you to however is a website where someone recorded a whole bunch of Jazzmaster pickups. What I can deal w/ this site is it was done in one sitting, w/ the same guitar, same amp settings, same player, playing the same riff. This wont tell you how it will sound for you, but it will give you a cross comparison of all the pickups.scottme wrote: Hi all,
Does anyone have sample sound files to compare the various JM Curtis Novak pickups? Now that I will soon have a nice 66 JM, I'm thinking about "improving" my 78 JM with a Novak or two. Curtis's page will be really cool when there's sample of each pickup on there to make selecting the right one easier.
As mentioned in the topic heading, my 78 JM seems to be rather noisey. It has copper foil and everything seems to be connected and original, but it's considerably noisier than my 68 Jag (and higher output). The strings / bridge is earthed to the sheilding. The level of electrical noise changes with guitar orientation (away from CRTs etc). I will post some pics of the guts soon. Any ideas what it might be and any remedy? Maybe it's just the way it's meant to be?
The site is http://jazzmasterjam.com/
He does not have the MP3's linked yet but you can hear the sound files here http://jazzmasterjam.com/mp3/
as for you noise the wiring does not look stock and there appears to be a mix match of parts, you might want to clean it up using new pots and such.
+2 Another HUGE Snake oil string fan - I use the JTMB or ME+ on my Jazzmasters and they're truly the best strings out there. They're warm rich and full of overtones, and complement the JM/Jag sound perfectly. I've been talking with Dean about a possible Bass VI set as well....glimmertwin wrote:Ya, I went out on a limb to prove all the Snake Oils Strings fans wrong a few years ago - that it was all hype. I was skeptical that they would make that much difference in sound but I figured I have given more money away to bums on the street so I could at least spend a few extra bucks on trying out some new strings... I was completely wrong - they are fantastic strings(for me at least). The string type and gague really have a marked difference on the sound of your guitar. Things like string composition, whether you have a wound 'g' string or not, and flatwound vs. roundwound can really change the makeup of your sound. I encourage everyone to try experimenting with different types of strings...jetset wrote: +1 on the strings. I used to scoff at string snobs, but I've become one - good nickel strings add a lot to the tone of a guitar. And 9's on a Jazzmaster is just silly.
-J
Now back to your normal pickup discussion....
I tried the Novak and Lollar neck samples and they sound quite different but I'm pretty sure it's mainly caused by other factors than the pickups themselves. The Lollar sounds like the Novak with a pretty bad cold according to those samples.glimmertwin wrote: I'm suprised no one has quoted this one yet...but from another topic posted on this forum very recently. Hopefully Novak doesn't mind me reposting this but it's pretty relevant to this discussion.....
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Your comments are EXACTLY what I am referring to w/ regards to using sound files as a tool to sell pickups.Sauerkraut wrote:I tried the Novak and Lollar neck samples and they sound quite different but I'm pretty sure it's mainly caused by other factors than the pickups themselves. The Lollar sounds like the Novak with a pretty bad cold according to those samples.glimmertwin wrote: I'm suprised no one has quoted this one yet...but from another topic posted on this forum very recently. Hopefully Novak doesn't mind me reposting this but it's pretty relevant to this discussion.....
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I'll take two of each!Green angel wrote: Ferrari or Porsche, Curtis Novak or Jason Lollar?
Both are greats