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my post from when this thread started mustve been deleted or something as i dont see it anymore. just to reiterate...
i made this guitar in 2010 from a drawing i made in late 2009.
i am only posting this due to the fact that at the time, i was running my own indie guitar company and actually sold quite a few guitars shaped like this. some of which even made it to the UK...
obviously my design is heavily fender influenced (i am not claiming total originality). i traced the upper bass side horn of a mustang and the rest is drawn freehand with lots of edits.
the overall size is smaller than a jag and just bigger than a mustang. seems so close to the cribs one. suspiciously close. especially considering theyve had an eye on the forum from time to time. haha, just kidding.
the original pickguard on mine even had a more mustang-y look which i changed when the cribs one came out so i didnt have anyone confusing it with the cribs one (or knockoff of it).
i do think the cribs one is very cool, regardless my bitterness on the design ripoff (unintentional i assume, i am not that cool), but i will toot my own horn and say the lower edge, on mine, being more jag-like seems more put together and finished looking than the flat mustang butt on the cribs one.
oh well. where did my old post go off to?

There's been a photoshop mockup of the Jarman squier floating around on forums for well over 10 years but yeah, yours does indeed look similar.

Well there were dozens of "Jag-stang done right" threads, guys.

I don't think someone ripped off anyone here...

CROSS_guitars wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:47 pm

There's been a photoshop mockup of the Jarman squier floating around on forums for well over 10 years but yeah, yours does indeed look similar.

i dont remember seeing any mock ups of a jarman guitar but i guess, egg on my face. also that was right around the time i joined the forum if i remember correctly so i could have missed it. i was just confused as to where my old post went and felt some lame need to bring it up.

Pacafeliz wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 05, 2019 3:50 am

Well there were dozens of "Jag-stang done right" threads, guys.

I don't think someone ripped off anyone here...

i know i know. i was just pointing out the similarity.

i also know that none of it really matters. just an attempt at making up a joke conspiracy... and a bruised ego

Pretty sure Ryan designed it when he was still at school - swear I remember him telling me that

There is also an OSG member who posted a full photoshop mockup of a Musuar, with the identical body and even an HS pickup layout, on the Shortscale forum sometime around 2007-2009. I wish I could recall who that was, but they posted a reply on OSG about it sometime in the last few months I think.

In any case, it seems like a likely case of convergent evolution given how many people came up with the same idea (the jagstang done right).

Also, I still want one.

I'm not sure anyone can really claim to have invented a Mus-uar, except maybe Kurt Cobain.

Everyone who has ever liked Jag-stangs has at some point or other wondered what the opposite would be like. I know it's something I doodled years before I even knew OSG was a thing.

Sure, every version will be slightly different with nice individual touches that other people might not have thought of (e.g. the killswitch on the Jarman) but the general body shape is one that lots of people have independently imagined over the years. It's cool that someone as big as Mr Jarman has also wondered what a backwards Jag-stang would be like so that we get a chance to own one.

mbene085 wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 05, 2019 8:56 am

There is also an OSG member who posted a full photoshop mockup of a Musuar, with the identical body and even an HS pickup layout, on the Shortscale forum sometime around 2007-2009. I wish I could recall who that was, but they posted a reply on OSG about it sometime in the last few months I think.

In any case, it seems like a likely case of convergent evolution given how many people came up with the same idea (the jagstang done right).

Also, I still want one.

Yeah, I've been going mad searching google images for that mockup. But it was near exactly what became the Jarman squier.

I did find this image in my travels though.

Isn't that the prototype that some OSGer found for sale in a pawn shop but ended up selling back to Jarman?

mbene085 wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 05, 2019 5:54 pm

Isn't that the prototype that some OSGer found for sale in a pawn shop but ended up selling back to Jarman?

Yep.

I have now heavily modified my Squier Jarman with the following:

Gotoh Tuners
Graphtech nut
Roller string trees
Roller bridge
Seymour Duncan Cool Rails in neck
Creamery Wide Range humbucker in the bridge

The wiring has been simplified to just a typical 3-way switch configuration. My main aim was to make sure that the instrument could stand up to gigging, as I was having constant tuning stability issues. Anyway, there is a wee video on instagram of me giving the vibrato a good wiggle.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BxNU2C-FJGf ... _copy_link

It plays great now and is my number 2 for gigging. I really wanted to have a second guitar live, as I use two separate tunings and this really helps with keeping a show going.

Looks like an unused neck popped up on Ebay



https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Fender-Squi ... %7Ciid%3A1

Interesting.....Doesn't have the 4 holes drilled for body connection either!

Has anyone modded the wiring of one of the slider switches so that its function serves instead as a coil split for the hot bridge pickup??

I'm guessing these are out of production and I'm outta luck living in the US? Damn cool looking guitar