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Re: Jazzmaster pickup comparison

Post by BarnyardCoral » Sat Jan 05, 2019 7:51 pm

I forgot about the Yosemites! Does anyone have experience with those yet?
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Re: Jazzmaster pickup comparison

Post by MayTheFuzzBeWithYou » Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:29 am

Thanks for the list!

A few questions:

The AVRI Set is not the same as the AV65 set that is available now, right?

I'm torn between Q-Pickups, The Creamery Pickups and the AV65. It is going to be my first JM-build.

Q offers three different A5 sets: a 1958 Vintage Correct (7,35 and 8,12 kOhm); then a grey bobbins Hot Bridge, Vintage Neck set (7,68 and 8,10 kOhm) and a Vintage Set (6,98 and 7,19 kOhm). (Why has the Hot Bridge set a lower kOhm value than the vintage correct set?)

The Creamery 58 - is 7,5kOhm and 8,2kOhm so a tad hotter than Qs 58' set

And for the AV65 I did only find 6,8kOhm on the Fender Homepage - but I guess neck & bridge aren't going to have the exact same value, right?

(Lollar, Barfuss and Novak are out of my price-range and GFS is out of the race too atm, Jess Loureiro was another possible source but I left his stuff out of consideration for the reasons others complaint about in the last months).
Qs would be the most "local" alternative with a theoretical 7hours car ride-distance (I would still let him ship them, no worries), The Creamery stuff looks great, but I haven't heard many reviews about either of them. Fenders are the easiest to source (Thomann - as I need plenty of other stuff too from them).

I mostly play Surf-Influenced Garage and Psychedelic Rock. Most of the time with one of my many Fuzz Boxes on... but sometimes clean too.
Which is the one set I should go for? :unsure:

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Re: Jazzmaster pickup comparison

Post by timtam » Mon Apr 29, 2019 2:00 am

MayTheFuzzBeWithYou wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:29 am
The AVRI Set is not the same as the AV65 set that is available now, right?
AFAIK Fender currently sells only the 'Pure Vintage' PV65 set (0992239000) and the individual AVRI (62) neck and bridge pickups (0054444000 and 0054443000).
https://darrenriley.com/product-categor ... r-pickups/

So I assume they are different, as you suggest, but how the 62 and 65 generation pickups differ from each other I will leave to those with that expertise.

The AV65's pickups (individual part numbers from those guitars are 0094012000 / 0094013000) and the PV65 set (0992239000) are the same according to Riley's description of the latter set ...
"Comes stock in the Fender American Vintage ’65 Jazzmaster reissue."
https://darrenriley.com/store/fender-pu ... 992239000/
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Re: Jazzmaster pickup comparison

Post by Igorilla » Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:07 am

MayTheFuzzBeWithYou wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:29 am
Thanks for the list!
...
A few questions:

And for the AV65 I did only find 6,8kOhm on the Fender Homepage - but I guess neck & bridge aren't going to have the exact same value, right?
...
The AV65s have both bridge and neck PU around 6.9 kOhm.

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Re: Jazzmaster pickup comparison

Post by MayTheFuzzBeWithYou » Mon Apr 29, 2019 6:38 am

Oh, okay. Thank you!

Can anyone say something about the Creamery or Q pickups?

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Re: Jazzmaster pickup comparison

Post by pikmin » Thu May 09, 2019 2:05 pm

MayTheFuzzBeWithYou wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2019 6:38 am
Oh, okay. Thank you!

Can anyone say something about the Creamery or Q pickups?
I have 3 Q_pickups sets .
The Jazzmaster vintage set , the Jazzmaster hybrid set and a Custom Jaguar set .

The 3 are awesome . I also have a Jazzmaster with Curtis Novak pickups ( JM-V and JM-FAT ) and the Q_pickups are different but they are really good .
I’m pretty amazed by his jazzzmaster hybrid set .
I also had a Jaguar with Fender Pure Vintage 65 pickups and I prefer The Q_pickups custom set .

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Re: Jazzmaster pickup comparison

Post by MayTheFuzzBeWithYou » Sat May 11, 2019 5:43 am

pikmin wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 2:05 pm

I have 3 Q_pickups sets .
The Jazzmaster vintage set , the Jazzmaster hybrid set and a Custom Jaguar set .

The 3 are awesome . I also have a Jazzmaster with Curtis Novak pickups ( JM-V and JM-FAT ) and the Q_pickups are different but they are really good .
I’m pretty amazed by his jazzzmaster hybrid set .
I also had a Jaguar with Fender Pure Vintage 65 pickups and I prefer The Q_pickups custom set .
Thank you pikmin! I may just try one of his sets! Let's see what happens! :-)

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Re: Jazzmaster pickup comparison

Post by OV7 » Fri Nov 22, 2019 11:40 am

Thanks to all of the posters on here for this information. I'm both educated on pickups now and totally confused.

I made this using Garageband with two guitar tracks and smart drums. I'm using only the neck pickup of my Warmoth Jazzmaster for both tracks. This might give some idea of how the Fender USA '65 RI neck pickup sounds in a swamp Ash Jazzmaster with 500K pots. I'm using an orange Tortex pick. I've been looking at Lollar Jazzmaster pickups as replacements.

https://soundcloud.com/wilsonov7/surfov ... astov-song

A picture of the guitar I'm using:

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Re: Jazzmaster pickup comparison

Post by JVG » Fri Nov 22, 2019 12:16 pm

I think your guitar sounds very nice in that clip. Don’t you like it? What sound are you after?

Maybe you need a different colour pick :P

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Re: Jazzmaster pickup comparison

Post by OV7 » Fri Nov 22, 2019 12:32 pm

JVG wrote:
Fri Nov 22, 2019 12:16 pm
I think your guitar sounds very nice in that clip. Don’t you like it? What sound are you after?

Maybe you need a different colour pick :P

Cheers!
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Thanks. I just like a higher output humbucker in the bridge(that is a Rose Picasso Alnico II bridge humbucker), and a cleaner pickup in the neck. I am looking at Lollars and Fralins. I have a set of split rail high output Fralins in my Squier Mustang and they sound fantastic. I guess the sound I'm going for is pretty much what you heard in the clip but I'm wondering if some other pickups might sound better and/or different. I've got a Nash JM63 with Lollars and they sound great, too. However, I've got to try the P90 versions in this guitar.
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Re: Jazzmaster pickup comparison

Post by Danley » Fri Nov 22, 2019 12:41 pm

I’m curious about your Picasso - my bridge model wound to 10k with A2 is a VERY low output pickup; it is easily out-gained by stock Squier Jazzmaster singles: comparing either neck or the previous bridge that the Picasso replaced. Is yours actually hotter than the singles?
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Re: Jazzmaster pickup comparison

Post by OV7 » Fri Nov 22, 2019 12:47 pm

Danley wrote:
Fri Nov 22, 2019 12:41 pm
I’m curious about your Picasso - my bridge model wound to 10k with A2 is a VERY low output pickup; it is easily out-gained by stock Squier Jazzmaster singles: comparing either neck or the previous bridge that the Picasso replaced. Is yours actually hotter than the singles?
I had a Squier Jazzmaster(2012 model year) and the bridge pickup on that was a firebreather. I replaced both pickups in it with Seymour Duncan Antiquity I pickups and it really cleaned it up a lot. I think my bridge Picasso is 9.33K. I'm pretty sure the stock Squier JM pickup is way on up there past that. I'm not sure of the output reading for my neck '65 RI but it is still louder than the Picasso bridge by just a hair despite the output readings!
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Re: Jazzmaster pickup comparison

Post by OV7 » Sat Nov 23, 2019 5:56 am

I made this using only a neck Lollar Jazzmaster pickup:

https://soundcloud.com/wilsonov7/lolla ... eck-pickup
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