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by RumorsOFsurF » Sat Nov 24, 2007 7:47 pm
Maukio wrote:
the older brother wrote:
This may be stated somewhere else, but I haven't seen it. And i think it belongs in this thread:
I had a big problem with jumping strings on the saddles on my MIJ JM - A problem I didn't have on my 62 JM (though hysterical low action and a very "plain" string angle over the bridge). This I tried to solve with tilting the saddles - following the curve of the radius. The strings still jumped AND the bridge buzzed.... After a study what differed the two guitars made me realize that the string spacing/string-hole pattern on the tremoloes was different between the MIJ and the vintage one. The 62 had a bit wider spacing and made the strings run more straight over the bridge, while the MIJ tremolo, with a narrower spacing, pulled the strings towards the middle (it was the outer strings wich the jumping occured to). After changing the MIJ tremolo to a 65 vintage one the jumping dissapeared! That is maybe not the cheapest way to solve the problem, but to me it was worth it.
Does anyone know if this applies to the new AVRIs, too? Or is this strictly a US vs Japan thing? I think that'd be helpful to know and could potentially save people some $$.
The AVRI trems are spaced like the vintage ones, and are a common upgrade on CIJ guitars...In fact, mine should be here any day.
Angela's usually has the AVRI units for around $70
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by 5L1V3R » Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:00 pm
wow that saved me lots of time
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by sonnengott » Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:55 am
got a problem with my mustang bridge...
the high e-string is too low... the cent under the saddle doesn't fit...
what can i do?
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by the older brother » Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:15 am
sonnengott wrote:
got a problem with my mustang bridge...
the high e-string is too low... the cent under the saddle doesn't fit...
what can i do?
- Raise the bridge post at high E end..... or:
- Change to a DECENT Jazzmaster bridge!
Someone knows where I can find the nearest woodchipper to throw my pieces of junk into?
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by mynameisjonas » Thu Jan 17, 2008 3:04 am
sonnengott wrote:
got a problem with my mustang bridge...
the high e-string is too low... the cent under the saddle doesn't fit...
what can i do?
you could get a warmoth modified mustang bridge, or get an extra set of saddles and replace the E saddle with an A or B saddle.
or if you don't want to spend any money you could do what i did; file down the bottoms of the four middle saddles to flatten out the radius, and raise the bridge a bit to compensate. it took me just a few minutes, and it isn't visible from the top. the downside is you can't go back, and if you take away too much the strings will buzz against the edge of the bridge base. but as long as you take away small amounts at a time and check the saddle height regularly (flipping the saddles back the right way) the risk of going too far should be minimal.
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by fuzzking » Thu Jan 17, 2008 4:07 am
sonnengott wrote:
got a problem with my mustang bridge...
the high e-string is too low... the cent under the saddle doesn't fit...
what can i do?
I just put a piece of thin cardboard under it.
But Jonas's approach seems more... erhm... stable.
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by fonzie » Sun Jan 20, 2008 1:36 pm
this doesnt apply to offsets but its still a bridge question : Where is it possibly to get a bronco bridge/tailpiece? ebay never has them.
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by Glider » Sun Jan 20, 2008 1:42 pm
mmm, how different is the mustang bridge to the jm? i mean, soundwise? is it like the jag bridge?
i wanted to keep the original bridge on my cij but its starting to buzz like hell now and i have no idea where its coming from. the groove on the saddle where the low e is seriously messed up; because its too small for the string to fit the string just rests between the saddle screw and the last groove on the saddle, but now it like completely destroyed the groove and it keeps buzzing so i thought i could try the mustang bridge but i was afraid soundwise...
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by spaceghost » Sun Jan 20, 2008 1:56 pm
i didn't like the mustang bridge. i love the stock bridges. the JM and Jag bridges are identical.
the problem with CIJ guitars buzzing has to do with the angle of the strings going over the bridge.
i forget, either the trem tail is wider than the bridge, or vice versa.
the strings aren't perfectly parallellike on AVRI guitars.
an AVRI trem and bridge would be what i would do. i don't own a CIJ.
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by FormerAirliner » Tue Feb 12, 2008 12:26 am
is there a tailpeice for the jazzmaster that has a female end that reacts with the tremelo arm in the same way as a strat bridge where the arm can swing free while still being firmly attached to the tailpeice? I do alot of kevin shields-esque playing with the tremelo arm in hand and then letting go of it for rhythm parts. the bridge i have now makes it difficult as it tends to just fall right out if i tilt it even the slightest to the ground, and i want to keep my freedom of moving around onstage without having to worry about such a thing happening.
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by Maukio » Tue Feb 12, 2008 12:37 am
Do you have it pushed in all the way? On both my CIJ and AVRI tailpieces the tremolo arm popped in (with some force I might add).
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by FormerAirliner » Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:54 pm
I tried pushing it in all the way as i do with the bridge on my ibanez rg's(where it just snaps in with enough force) and it just isnt staying put. the bridge seems to be fender issued with the Patent number 2.972.923 if that helps at all...
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by EnosEmurf » Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:49 pm
I have the same problem with my AVRI, that shit does not stay in.
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by TheMilford » Sat Feb 23, 2008 6:30 pm
EnosEmurf wrote:
I have the same problem with my AVRI, that shit does not stay in.
push harder. it will pop.
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by RumorsOFsurF » Sat Feb 23, 2008 7:19 pm
TheMilford wrote:
EnosEmurf wrote:
I have the same problem with my AVRI, that shit does not stay in.
push harder. it will pop.
+1 AVRI trem collets are usually very tight when new. You have to FORCE IT!!
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