The Aria Diamond restoration: a collective and international work.
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The Aria Diamond restoration: a collective and international work.
As some of you might already know, I bought an Aria Diamond on eBay a few time ago.
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The guitar was described in good and playable condition and the seller told me the frets were in good condition after I asked him but what I received was a guitar in pretty bad shape: all the metal parts were covered in rust, there was a big gap between the neck heel and neck pocket but worst of all, the frets were damaged with big dents in them.
I made a claim on Paypal and we finally agree with the seller on a partial refund so I decided to keep the guitar.
Another important thing that helped me take the decision of keeping the guitar is our fellow offsetter Ben, better known under the name of theworkoffire, offered me to do the fretjob and helped me with wise advices for the other issues.
I actually wouldn't have been able (and wouldn't have wanted to either) to pay a pro guitar tech to do it.
So what will follow is a thread about an international restoration of the guitar.
Let's list the problem to fix:
1 - Gap between the neck heel and neck pocket.
2 - Rust on the neck plate, neck screw, tremolo bar and tremolo unit
3 - The high E saddle screw has been replaced with a bigger and odd screw:
4 - The damaged and used frets:
Work done yet:
1 - Gap between the neck heel and neck pocket. Fixed
It was not a real problem actually. The screw were just unscrewed and were not changed for some longer ones.
2 - Rust on the neck plate, neck screw, tremolo bar and tremolo unit
The whole trem unit + screws are in spa since a week now: alternating between bath of Coke, showers of WD40 and ernergic friction with toothpaste.
The trem unit is pretty much clean now but it still have markes and traces; I'll try another cleaning with toothpaste and another bath in Coke if necessary.
The neckplate and trem bar won't clean so easily: the dust is incrusted in the chrome. I think the only way is to sand it with the dremel. I'm not looking for them to be as new but i want to make them clean in the "safe for health" kind of way.
I also roughly cleaned the bridge and removed most of the rust and then included in the package with the neck which has arrived in Ben's home today.
I'll let Ben post about 3 and 4.
index.php?topic=9855.0
The guitar was described in good and playable condition and the seller told me the frets were in good condition after I asked him but what I received was a guitar in pretty bad shape: all the metal parts were covered in rust, there was a big gap between the neck heel and neck pocket but worst of all, the frets were damaged with big dents in them.
I made a claim on Paypal and we finally agree with the seller on a partial refund so I decided to keep the guitar.
Another important thing that helped me take the decision of keeping the guitar is our fellow offsetter Ben, better known under the name of theworkoffire, offered me to do the fretjob and helped me with wise advices for the other issues.
I actually wouldn't have been able (and wouldn't have wanted to either) to pay a pro guitar tech to do it.
So what will follow is a thread about an international restoration of the guitar.
Let's list the problem to fix:
1 - Gap between the neck heel and neck pocket.
2 - Rust on the neck plate, neck screw, tremolo bar and tremolo unit
3 - The high E saddle screw has been replaced with a bigger and odd screw:
4 - The damaged and used frets:
Work done yet:
1 - Gap between the neck heel and neck pocket. Fixed
It was not a real problem actually. The screw were just unscrewed and were not changed for some longer ones.
2 - Rust on the neck plate, neck screw, tremolo bar and tremolo unit
The whole trem unit + screws are in spa since a week now: alternating between bath of Coke, showers of WD40 and ernergic friction with toothpaste.
The trem unit is pretty much clean now but it still have markes and traces; I'll try another cleaning with toothpaste and another bath in Coke if necessary.
The neckplate and trem bar won't clean so easily: the dust is incrusted in the chrome. I think the only way is to sand it with the dremel. I'm not looking for them to be as new but i want to make them clean in the "safe for health" kind of way.
I also roughly cleaned the bridge and removed most of the rust and then included in the package with the neck which has arrived in Ben's home today.
I'll let Ben post about 3 and 4.
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Don't they sell disinfecting wipes where you are? If all you care about is killing germs, there's no better way to do it.k o y l wrote: The neckplate and trem bar won't clean so easily: the dust is incrusted in the chrome. I think the only way is to sand it with the dremel. I'm not looking for them to be as new but i want to make them clean in the "safe for health" kind of way.
I normally do that on anything used that I buy. I just bought a used car this week and as soon as I get it this weekend I plan to expend an entire package of those things wiping down the interior.
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So the neck has arrived here in London and it's got a really nice feel to it. It's tired and dented and dirty, though - very much in need of some loving care.
I removed the tuners, string tree and truss rod cover, leaving just the ferrules in place - if they were loose I'd have taken them out and glued them back in but they seem fine. No problems cleaning round them. Gave everywhere a good wipe down with lighter fluid (naphtha) to get the worst of the gunk off, then set to work on the frets. They were really heavily pressed into the fingerboard, as well as being really low and worn, so it took some serious work to wrestle them out. I heated them with a soldering iron then prized them out with modified end cutters. I have filed the end of the cutters down so the cutting edges are flush, rather than being slightly recessed. That way you can, in theory, get right in between the fret and the board and the cutters press down on the wood whilst pushing the fret out of the slot.
Anyway, got there in the end - no major damage. Once they could be persuaded to move they came out fairly easily. Look away if you dont want to see some pretty grisly nudity.
Not pretty...
Out with the sandpaper and radiused blocks. Starting with 120 to get rid of the dents in the rosewood and even things out, then up through the grits to polish. You can really see how mashed up the surface was - the shiny areas are indentations yet to be reached by the sandpaper:
I'm working on paper there to catch all the rosewood dust - you never know when you'll want to make some invisible filler.
End result - perfectly radiused to 9.5", nice and smooth with no indentations. I stopped at 400 grit then polished a bit with a slightly abrasive cloth to bring up a nice shine. I'll re-sand with higher grits and polish some more after I've run a saw through all the slots and beveled the slot edges tomorrow.
I removed the tuners, string tree and truss rod cover, leaving just the ferrules in place - if they were loose I'd have taken them out and glued them back in but they seem fine. No problems cleaning round them. Gave everywhere a good wipe down with lighter fluid (naphtha) to get the worst of the gunk off, then set to work on the frets. They were really heavily pressed into the fingerboard, as well as being really low and worn, so it took some serious work to wrestle them out. I heated them with a soldering iron then prized them out with modified end cutters. I have filed the end of the cutters down so the cutting edges are flush, rather than being slightly recessed. That way you can, in theory, get right in between the fret and the board and the cutters press down on the wood whilst pushing the fret out of the slot.
Anyway, got there in the end - no major damage. Once they could be persuaded to move they came out fairly easily. Look away if you dont want to see some pretty grisly nudity.
Not pretty...
Out with the sandpaper and radiused blocks. Starting with 120 to get rid of the dents in the rosewood and even things out, then up through the grits to polish. You can really see how mashed up the surface was - the shiny areas are indentations yet to be reached by the sandpaper:
I'm working on paper there to catch all the rosewood dust - you never know when you'll want to make some invisible filler.
End result - perfectly radiused to 9.5", nice and smooth with no indentations. I stopped at 400 grit then polished a bit with a slightly abrasive cloth to bring up a nice shine. I'll re-sand with higher grits and polish some more after I've run a saw through all the slots and beveled the slot edges tomorrow.
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Wow !
Did i say I love you ?
Did i say I love you ?
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Great job!
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+1 on the comment above!
Someone knows where I can find the nearest woodchipper to throw my pieces of junk into?
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You really do some great work, Ben .. nice to see.
The grain on that fretboard is phenomenal ..
The grain on that fretboard is phenomenal ..
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I agree with the posts above.
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+1,000,000,000mezcalhead wrote: The grain on that fretboard is phenomenal ..
I want that neck. That's fantastic.
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that's a great fretboard grain indeed. Who would have though such a thing was hidden under all this dirt !
Some very little news from my side:
I cleaned the body and remove the pickguard. I was expecting to do some work in there...
... but what I found was a perfectly clean and nice wiring.
So I won't touch it.
`
I originally wanted to reverse the bass cut switch (let's call it like that) in order to have it cut the bass when the switch is closer to the strings but I won't do it. the wiring is too "tight" for that. Not really a big deal...
About the bass cut switch: the capacitor used is a .20uF . this little thing is so great and simple to do that I'll probably put it in some of my other guitars: it work great with pups that have strong mids such as P90s.
I think .20uF caps are very hard if not impossible to find nowadays so I'll experiment with .18 and .22 uF caps
But try this mods guys, you'll love it.
That's all !
..... very little news as I said..
Some very little news from my side:
I cleaned the body and remove the pickguard. I was expecting to do some work in there...
... but what I found was a perfectly clean and nice wiring.
So I won't touch it.
`
I originally wanted to reverse the bass cut switch (let's call it like that) in order to have it cut the bass when the switch is closer to the strings but I won't do it. the wiring is too "tight" for that. Not really a big deal...
About the bass cut switch: the capacitor used is a .20uF . this little thing is so great and simple to do that I'll probably put it in some of my other guitars: it work great with pups that have strong mids such as P90s.
I think .20uF caps are very hard if not impossible to find nowadays so I'll experiment with .18 and .22 uF caps
But try this mods guys, you'll love it.
That's all !
..... very little news as I said..
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No news here either - I have an interview for a PhD tomorrow so I'm not doing anything guitar related...er...
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What's a PhD ??
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Philosophy Doctor ?
Someone knows where I can find the nearest woodchipper to throw my pieces of junk into?
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Yup, though the subject area will be Fine Art. PhD is a catch-all term. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_of_Philosophythe older brother wrote: Philosophy Doctor ?
The whole thing hinges on funding, really. No funding = no Dr. Work O'fire
Fingers crossed.