Offset? Phantom Melody necktrough scraps (second build)
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Offset? Phantom Melody necktrough scraps (second build)
Well, it's sort of offset...I thought I'd share since it's the remnants of my other build.
I had some scraps left over from my neckthrough maple walnut RD build. When I cut the neckthrough section I was able to get ahold of some time on a bandsaw to save the scrap. It was enough to build another guitar with a paddle headstock. I could have done a scarf neck but I'd rather do a neckthrough with a paddle. The cut-off pieces from the body were pretty small but my friend was just showing me a couple of Vox Phantoms that he had bought and it struck me that I actually had enough wood left over to make one.
Here's my concept. It's a Vox Phantom body, 25.5" scale, widened Supro headstock and a melody maker pickguard. I call it the Phantom Melody:
The first thing I did really screwed everything up. I roughed out the neck shape with a jigsaw. I was cutting from the backside and the blade wandered in 2 places just about a millimeter into where the neck will be. I like the 55 Les Paul neck profile, sort of a roundish V neck so it should be easy to taper the fretboard/binding to accomodate the error. My binding is about 1.5mm.
I'm going to carve the neck first and then build the fretboard with binding to make sure it'll all work. I'm going for 42mm at the nut, 55mm at the end of fretboard.
I sharpened up my hand plane and made a ton of shavings. I picked up a Stanley #51 spoke shave today for $12. I need to sharpen it before I can shape the neck.
After I got the fingerboard plane all leveled out I clamped a board to the headstock and body part of the neckthrough and used the edge guide with a 1/4" Dremel router bit to make the truss rod channel. I'm using a 2-way Bezdez rod from ebay.
Perfect snug fit. Only took 10-20 minutes to make the channel with the Dremel. Maybe 6 passes.
I had some scraps left over from my neckthrough maple walnut RD build. When I cut the neckthrough section I was able to get ahold of some time on a bandsaw to save the scrap. It was enough to build another guitar with a paddle headstock. I could have done a scarf neck but I'd rather do a neckthrough with a paddle. The cut-off pieces from the body were pretty small but my friend was just showing me a couple of Vox Phantoms that he had bought and it struck me that I actually had enough wood left over to make one.
Here's my concept. It's a Vox Phantom body, 25.5" scale, widened Supro headstock and a melody maker pickguard. I call it the Phantom Melody:
The first thing I did really screwed everything up. I roughed out the neck shape with a jigsaw. I was cutting from the backside and the blade wandered in 2 places just about a millimeter into where the neck will be. I like the 55 Les Paul neck profile, sort of a roundish V neck so it should be easy to taper the fretboard/binding to accomodate the error. My binding is about 1.5mm.
I'm going to carve the neck first and then build the fretboard with binding to make sure it'll all work. I'm going for 42mm at the nut, 55mm at the end of fretboard.
I sharpened up my hand plane and made a ton of shavings. I picked up a Stanley #51 spoke shave today for $12. I need to sharpen it before I can shape the neck.
After I got the fingerboard plane all leveled out I clamped a board to the headstock and body part of the neckthrough and used the edge guide with a 1/4" Dremel router bit to make the truss rod channel. I'm using a 2-way Bezdez rod from ebay.
Perfect snug fit. Only took 10-20 minutes to make the channel with the Dremel. Maybe 6 passes.
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i like the look of this with the melody maker pickguard.
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To be an offset waist guitar, I guess it needs to have a waist in the first place...Well, it's sort of offset...
Nice build!
Someone knows where I can find the nearest woodchipper to throw my pieces of junk into?
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You've shown me hand tools... I'm WAY interested. I have been wanting to take that to the extreme and make a "no power tools" guitar, but cutting out a body with a coping saw seems like the worst thing ever... That aside, these phantoms seem to be where it's at lately
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when i built my phantom it was originally going to have an airline-esque headstock. great minds eh?...
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Re: Offset? Phantom Melody necktrough scraps (second build)
I never saw yours. Yeah they seem super popular now. I kind of feel like I'm jumping on the bandwagon but really there's no other body shape that will fit these scraps of wood I have! I think the airline headstock looks pretty cool on it. The OG Vox headstock makes the whole thing look pretty phallicniksureal wrote:when i built my phantom it was originally going to have an airline-esque headstock. great minds eh?...
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i agree with statement obout the original vox headstock looking phallic. never was a fan.
heres the thread... there are pics if you scroll down.
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=51217&hilit=new+roc ... g&start=75" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
heres the thread... there are pics if you scroll down.
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=51217&hilit=new+roc ... g&start=75" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Offset? Phantom Melody necktrough scraps (second build)
niksureal wrote:i agree with statement obout the original vox headstock looking phallic. never was a fan.
heres the thread... there are pics if you scroll down.
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=51217&hilit=new+roc ... g&start=75" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Actually I did see that !! I remember now that I see the paint job. Pretty awesome!
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i'm still kind of mind-blown that the RD was your first build
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Ah, thank you! I wish it didn't smell like lacquer solvents still!!! Still waiting on that... could be awhile...croatan wrote:i'm still kind of mind-blown that the RD was your first build
It does play amazing acoustically. I want to wait for it to cure a bit more before finishing the nut and fret leveling/crowning.
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Re: Offset? Phantom Melody necktrough scraps (second build)
Yeah that would be too crazy. I do think a good mix of hand tools and power tools is a great way to go. Some parts just aren't practical by hand. There's a guy on the MLP forum that made a LP entirely by hand. I would never attempt that.andrewdoeshair wrote:You've shown me hand tools... I'm WAY interested. I have been wanting to take that to the extreme and make a "no power tools" guitar, but cutting out a body with a coping saw seems like the worst thing ever... That aside, these phantoms seem to be where it's at lately
Picking up an old solid plane off ebay and learning how to tune it up was a great experience though.
I'm hooked! I got this Stanley #51 spokeshave off ebay yesterday for $12. No one was bidding because it needed to be re-ground but I noticed the guy was in my town so I just drove over and picked it up in person. He got it when he was 18 in 1956 in England.
I reground it by hand and got it all honed up. Wow, I love this thing. I feel like I could carve a neck in 15 minutes with no sawdust!!
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There's a dude out in west Virginia (I think) who builds really high end martin copies to vintage specs, and he taught himself using only a pocket knife. He gave a talk and demonstration at the colorado luthiers convention 2 years ago, it was really interesting.andrewdoeshair wrote: I have been wanting to take that to the extreme and make a "no power tools" guitar, but cutting out a body with a coping saw seems like the worst thing ever...
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only in west virginia...
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Re: Offset? Phantom Melody necktrough scraps (second build)
YEAHHH!!!
everyone needs a Phantom!!!
everyone needs a Phantom!!!
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Re: Offset? Phantom Melody necktrough scraps (second build)
I roughed in the headstock and neck. I decided to go ahead and glue up the body. You can see I had used my scrap maple for testing finishes. I'll clean it up once the glue dries and I can work the top and back flat.
Not much else I could have done with these maple scraps. The Phantom really fits perfect!
Not much else I could have done with these maple scraps. The Phantom really fits perfect!