Cross Guitars - projects and restorations

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Re: Cross Guitars - projects and restorations

Post by MattK » Thu Dec 14, 2023 4:40 am

Nailed it indeed, great choices and great work as always

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Re: Cross Guitars - projects and restorations

Post by MayTheFuzzBeWithYou » Thu Jan 18, 2024 7:40 am

Insomnicide wrote:
Fri Dec 01, 2023 2:41 pm
CROSS_guitars wrote:
Tue Nov 28, 2023 7:59 pm
If anyone is thinking of getting one of these Hosco Jaguar bodies that are popping up on Ebay etc, there's a few things to consider.
They are not at all "vintage correct" I knew this before I bought it, so no biggy for me.
It will NOT fit a USA, MIM, Squier pickguard.

I have ordered a MIJ/CIJ style pickguard hoping one of those will fit it. I have the feeling it won't either. So I am now considering cutting my own.

The body itself is Jazzmaster shaped, Not Jaguar. So the upper horn is rounder like on Jazzmasters.
So they've basically taken the Jazzmaster body and routed it for Jaguar parts.

Other than these issues, it's beautifully made, perfect finish. excellent quality.

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Could probably send those photos and measurements to Herad and he could help draw up a custom guard that fits. He's been really lovely with helping me do custom pickguards. Most recently made a jaguar pickguard which fit Teisco Spectrum pickups, and a drilling template for mounting hardware on a jag.

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I received my body from Northwestguitars (UK), specifically asked them if it was a JAPAN fit or US fit - (as they only sell Hosco Japan Pickguards in their store - to which they replied that the only Japan fit body was the unfinished one from Hosco, the rest (finished) would be US fit… so they just lied to my face.
These are JAPAN fit - I tested it with the original (modified) guard from my 2012 Thinline. And with the ones Herad made for that very guitar. They all fit perfectl. Well… but the US fit guards „fall off the edge“ and will have troubles fitting the switches into the diamond plate.

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AVRI (Custom World Guitar Parts)

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Reptile Guard

(*Herad‘s guards are not shown)

What good is it if you finally have some „nice“ Tortoise guard if it doesn‘t fit your build. :fp:

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Re: Cross Guitars - projects and restorations

Post by CROSS_guitars » Thu Jan 18, 2024 1:47 pm

Not even that black Japanese one looks like it fits well, imo.

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Re: Cross Guitars - projects and restorations

Post by MayTheFuzzBeWithYou » Thu Jan 18, 2024 1:57 pm

CROSS_guitars wrote:
Thu Jan 18, 2024 1:47 pm
Not even that black Japanese one looks like it fits well, imo.
You mean both blacks don‘t fit? I thought the first one is alright.
(I just added the model description for clarity)

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Re: Cross Guitars - projects and restorations

Post by CROSS_guitars » Thu Jan 18, 2024 5:10 pm

The Japan black fits better than the AVRI one for sure but look at the edge on the Japan one where it meets the control plate.
It looks terrible.

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Re: Cross Guitars - projects and restorations

Post by CROSS_guitars » Thu Jan 18, 2024 5:12 pm

CROSS_guitars wrote:
Fri Dec 01, 2023 3:32 pm
The MIJ pickguard arrived.
The shape looks stupid as well. Kinda looks like an Aliexpress Jaguar.
So, yeah I'll be making my own mdf template.

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This is the Japan one I bought. Look at all that empty space on the side before it meets the control plate. :k

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Re: Cross Guitars - projects and restorations

Post by MayTheFuzzBeWithYou » Fri Jan 19, 2024 12:32 am

CROSS_guitars wrote:
Thu Jan 18, 2024 5:12 pm
CROSS_guitars wrote:
Fri Dec 01, 2023 3:32 pm
The MIJ pickguard arrived.
The shape looks stupid as well. Kinda looks like an Aliexpress Jaguar.
So, yeah I'll be making my own mdf template.

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This is the Japan one I bought. Look at all that empty space on the side before it meets the control plate. :k
As I had trouble with the fitting of my last remaining Jag control plate to the AVRI templates I‘m guessing they even have/had their own plate shapes - it‘s a mess. :D

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Re: Cross Guitars - projects and restorations

Post by CROSS_guitars » Wed Jan 24, 2024 5:35 am

I popped some vinyl racing stripes on my orange Mustang.
It's got a few air bubbles in it but they tend to disappear after a while.

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Re: Cross Guitars - projects and restorations

Post by GilmourD » Wed Jan 24, 2024 10:03 am

CROSS_guitars wrote:
Wed Jan 24, 2024 5:35 am
I popped some vinyl racing stripes on my orange Mustang.
It's got a few air bubbles in it but they tend to disappear after a while.

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I was thinking about doing that to my wife's Bullet Mustang, but I don't want to put on some vinyl and have it rub right off no matter how good it is. What's your experience with durability?

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Re: Cross Guitars - projects and restorations

Post by CROSS_guitars » Wed Jan 24, 2024 6:32 pm

They're pretty durable but I don't think they are particularly permanent. I like that they can be removed without any damage.
I'd only ever put these on a poly finish, not nitro.

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Re: Cross Guitars - projects and restorations

Post by CROSS_guitars » Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:17 pm

I did some more work on my 1980 Fender Precision bass.
It's been a gradual journey to restore it.

I refretted it with vintage-style fret wire. Which is a bit thinner than what was there. That's usually inadvisable but
I didn't run into any issues. I cut a new bone nut for it too.
It was a nice opportunity to give the fretboard a refresher. It looks brand new now, after I oiled it and polished the frets.
I also did some finish work on the back of the neck. It was heavily played in with dents and paint peel.
40 years of gigging had taken its toll. I didn't overdo it. just filled in some of the dents with superglue and refinished the edges where the maple meets the rosewood.

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Re: Cross Guitars - projects and restorations

Post by JVG » Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:13 am

CROSS_guitars wrote:
Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:17 pm
I did some more work on my 1980 Fender Precision bass.
It's been a gradual journey to restore it.
Wow man, that looks bloody awesome. Really nice, tasteful job.

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Re: Cross Guitars - projects and restorations

Post by CROSS_guitars » Sat Feb 03, 2024 10:16 pm

I've been experimenting with cutting out control plates from aluminium.
This is a left-handed XII control plate. I polished the crap out of it.
I reckon it looks pretty legit.

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Re: Cross Guitars - projects and restorations

Post by Nudger » Mon Feb 05, 2024 3:05 am

CROSS_guitars wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 10:16 pm
I've been experimenting with cutting out control plates from aluminium.
This is a left-handed XII control plate. I polished the crap out of it.
I reckon it looks pretty legit.

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Looks great!
Is there an advangage polishing your own rather than buying ready polished plate?

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Re: Cross Guitars - projects and restorations

Post by Steadyriot. » Mon Feb 05, 2024 5:50 am

Damn that looks great! My experience with aluminum is that it always somehow keeps a grey undertone / cast in the sheen but this one looks just like stainless or chrome! Great job.
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