NGD...Zhivago's adventures in The Land of PAFs...

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Post by rexter » Tue Apr 09, 2019 3:03 am

My god man, the perfect family! :? :-* :-*

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Post by zhivago » Tue Apr 09, 2019 4:05 am

rexter wrote:
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My god man, the perfect family! :? :-* :-*
Thank you, sir!!

It is still hard for me to believe that my bucket list is complete! :)
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Post by rexter » Tue Apr 09, 2019 4:16 am

zhivago wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2019 4:05 am
rexter wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2019 3:03 am
My god man, the perfect family! :? :-* :-*
Thank you, sir!!

It is still hard for me to believe that my bucket list is complete! :)
Dreams can come true haha 8)
Seriously lovely collection though.

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Post by kapepper » Wed Apr 10, 2019 11:20 am

zhivago wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2019 1:32 am
It's such a cool guitar, really happy with this one!! :)

Here's the vintage family...1943, 1956, 1963 and 1961...I'll have to shoot a bit photo, but for now...

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Post by BoringPostcards » Wed Apr 10, 2019 2:04 pm

zhivago wrote:
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I wouldn’t know which one to pick up and play. I’d likely just sit and stare at them in awe all day.
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Post by MT » Thu May 30, 2019 1:21 am

zhivago wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2019 1:32 am
It's such a cool guitar, really happy with this one!! :)

Here's the vintage family...1943, 1956, 1963 and 1961...I'll have to shoot a bit photo, but for now...

Image

:-*
The Yiannismaster! It’s still my first thought when I see a tort on black offset. ;D

How’s the SG now that the honeymoon period has passed?

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Post by zhivago » Thu May 30, 2019 12:42 pm

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The Yiannismaster! It’s still my first thought when I see a tort on black offset. ;D

How’s the SG now that the honeymoon period has passed?
Heheh! The YM is still awesome, especially after the re-fret...what a great guitar and I have so much history with it. :)

The SG still kills..very resonate, light-is with all the metal bits on it...PAFs sound like heaven...the neck feeling "out over there" is not much of a bother playing a JM all these years.

My one criticism though needs to be the stability of the neck... :-/

Fair is fair...

you can literally move the neck in any direction (up down, in out) and you get some sort of natural chorus/bigsby effect...it can get annoying if you are playing standing up, and indeed rocking out. Using nut sauce (the nut was a bit iffy), helped quite a bit, but rocking out standing up is still not 100% if you are jumping around on stage.

Thankfully, I am now 41...so all this is rather unlikely! :D
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Post by Despot » Fri May 31, 2019 2:47 am

I don't know what causes that Yannis (the neck stability).

I experienced exactly the same thing on a '64 SG Special that I had many years ago - and it was the main reason behind me selling it. Yet that SG had far more wood on the neck than the '62 ES345 I had - and that thing was rock solid.

Now you might say "ah yeah ... but that's just the SG neck tenon and the lack of wood anchoring it". Yep - fair point, but it's not like an ES345 has a far longer tenon or appreciably more wood at the join area (it's also a neck sticking out design).

I've noticed that the ES335 I picked up yesterday has a bit of the same issue in terms of the neck - not as much as that old SG ... but I did notice it when moving position playing while sitting.

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Post by Maggieo » Fri May 31, 2019 9:04 am

My '61 SG had an extremely stable neck...because it had been repaired three times! ;D It didn't have a tenon, it had, like four dowels in it.
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Post by zhivago » Sat Jun 01, 2019 1:24 am

Despot wrote:
Fri May 31, 2019 2:47 am
I don't know what causes that Yannis (the neck stability).

I experienced exactly the same thing on a '64 SG Special that I had many years ago - and it was the main reason behind me selling it. Yet that SG had far more wood on the neck than the '62 ES345 I had - and that thing was rock solid.

Now you might say "ah yeah ... but that's just the SG neck tenon and the lack of wood anchoring it". Yep - fair point, but it's not like an ES345 has a far longer tenon or appreciably more wood at the join area (it's also a neck sticking out design).

I've noticed that the ES335 I picked up yesterday has a bit of the same issue in terms of the neck - not as much as that old SG ... but I did notice it when moving position playing while sitting.
Indeed, I can't figure out why it does it...with the nut sauce it is better, which maybe means that if the nut is tight the moving of the neck is accentuated somehow...it is rather strange, as the neck (as you know, Kev), is not really all that thin. ???

Playing it sitting down it not much of a problem, and to be fair, it is so expensive it is more of a stay-at-home guitar, so maybe I am over-analysing it...I have actually incorporated the neck warble in some of my playing, especially with clean passages...it sounds kinda cool :)
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Post by zhivago » Sat Jun 01, 2019 1:25 am

Maggieo wrote:
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My '61 SG had an extremely stable neck...because it had been repaired three times! ;D It didn't have a tenon, it had, like four dowels in it.
:wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf:

Three repairs!! That's crazy! heheh!! :D
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Post by i love sharin foo » Sat Jun 01, 2019 9:13 am

zhivago wrote:
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I have actually incorporated the neck warble in some of my playing, especially with clean passages...it sounds kinda cool :)

Jim Campilongo does that a lot... but with a '59 Telecaster!
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Post by Maggieo » Sat Jun 01, 2019 5:43 pm

i love sharin foo wrote:
Sat Jun 01, 2019 9:13 am
zhivago wrote:
Sat Jun 01, 2019 1:24 am

I have actually incorporated the neck warble in some of my playing, especially with clean passages...it sounds kinda cool :)

Jim Campilongo does that a lot... but with a '59 Telecaster!
He's a master at it, too! I totally stole that trick. Or I'd like to think I did! :D
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Post by i love sharin foo » Sat Jun 01, 2019 6:07 pm

Maggieo wrote:
Sat Jun 01, 2019 5:43 pm

He's a master at it, too! I totally stole that trick. Or I'd like to think I did! :D
That man is a master at everything he does (IMHO)!! He can get so much out of so little. I just listen and wonder how he can command so many techniques seemingly effortlessly while playing what is some really complicated stuff. There are some videos I've found of his trio with Nels that are really great.
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Post by StevenO » Sat Jun 01, 2019 6:15 pm

Pete Townshend does the neck vibrato with his Sg all over Live at Leeds when he plays clean passages. It's a feature, not a bug!

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