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Re: I'm back... 56 Les Paul Custom

Post by JSett » Mon May 06, 2024 1:33 pm

zhivago wrote:
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Yeah Andy is supposedly the go-to guy by UK guitar 'stars' and has very little online presence seemingly deliberately as his work is retarded enough to be purely word of mouth. I've played guitars he's refretted and they have been impeccable.
Very good to hear this, especially as my LP could use a fret dress...might just drop him a line and see what his availability is. :)
That'll confuse him, 2x 56 LPC enquires at the same time :D :D
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Re: I'm back... 56 Les Paul Custom

Post by Telliot » Mon May 06, 2024 3:58 pm

JSett wrote:
Mon May 06, 2024 1:03 pm
Yeah Andy is supposedly the go-to guy by UK guitar 'stars' and has very little online presence seemingly deliberately as his work is retarded enough to be purely word of mouth. I've played guitars he's refretted and they have been impeccable.
Surely you have a better word in your vocabulary than this? ::)
The cool thing about fretless is you can hit a note...and then renegotiate.

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Re: I'm back... 56 Les Paul Custom

Post by MattK » Mon May 06, 2024 7:15 pm

typo for “regarded”, right?

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Re: I'm back... 56 Les Paul Custom

Post by MattK » Mon May 06, 2024 8:04 pm

also, Johnny, do you think the guy might do the number if you have the stamp ready and do the prep work? Might overcome his reluctance to take it on.

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Re: I'm back... 56 Les Paul Custom

Post by Unicorn Warrior » Mon May 06, 2024 8:04 pm

Deleted original post because I don’t want to derail. Carry on

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Re: I'm back... 56 Les Paul Custom

Post by JSett » Mon May 06, 2024 8:10 pm

Telliot wrote:
Mon May 06, 2024 3:58 pm
JSett wrote:
Mon May 06, 2024 1:03 pm
Yeah Andy is supposedly the go-to guy by UK guitar 'stars' and has very little online presence seemingly deliberately as his work is retarded enough to be purely word of mouth. I've played guitars he's refretted and they have been impeccable.
Surely you have a better word in your vocabulary than this? ::)
I do, especially when it's an autocorrect error from regarded
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Re: I'm back... 56 Les Paul Custom

Post by OffYourFace » Mon May 06, 2024 8:22 pm

i hate autocorrect, I knew what you meant

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Re: I'm back... 56 Les Paul Custom

Post by Telliot » Mon May 06, 2024 8:46 pm

Fair enough, my apologies.
The cool thing about fretless is you can hit a note...and then renegotiate.

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Re: I'm back... 56 Les Paul Custom

Post by JSett » Mon May 06, 2024 8:52 pm

MattK wrote:
Mon May 06, 2024 8:04 pm
also, Johnny, do you think the guy might do the number if you have the stamp ready and do the prep work? Might overcome his reluctance to take it on.
He's not reluctant to do it, just swamped for the foreseeable. The stamping of the number is the simplest part. I don't doubt it's overall a pretty simple task - especially as it's a small area, flat surface, basic prep/paint/stamp/clear order - but Yannis/Zhivago makes a good point about the high-end Gibson nerds being fussy about who's worked on things.
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i hate autocorrect, I knew what you meant
It's helpful a lot of the time, but other times you can accidentally look like a total aunt
Telliot wrote:
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Fair enough, my apologies.
Not a problem, it happens :)
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Re: I'm back... 56 Les Paul Custom

Post by JSett » Mon May 06, 2024 9:08 pm

First one is back, Joseph Kaye:
Hello Johnny

Yes this is something I’d do. It’s going to take time.
I’d hand brush the shellac in and level it, let it shrink and build it up until it settles, then re ink the stamp.
I’ve worked on similar 50’s customs before tho this has a lot of lacquer missing so it would be worth seeing in hand,

Working out a price isn’t easy & it’ll take a least a month to do in stages, before the lacquer matches.

Best wishes

Joseph
I'm guessing he typed shellac by mistake as I don't think they used any in the process of these in the 50s, but I could be wrong. Very different vibe from Yuuki who, back in Feb before he suggested I do it, was saying how uncomplicated the process is :D
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Re: I'm back... 56 Les Paul Custom

Post by zhivago » Tue May 07, 2024 12:25 am

They probably all have their own techniques of getting to the same place, the vintage Gibson crowd is similar to the vintage Martin crowd when it comes to repair work.

It is crucial the right people work on these old guitars, I learned that the hard way with my Martin. :squint:

Anyways, let us know how it goes :)
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Re: I'm back... 56 Les Paul Custom

Post by JSett » Tue May 07, 2024 8:24 am

zhivago wrote:
Tue May 07, 2024 12:25 am
They probably all have their own techniques of getting to the same place, the vintage Gibson crowd is similar to the vintage Martin crowd when it comes to repair work.

It is crucial the right people work on these old guitars, I learned that the hard way with my Martin. :squint:

Anyways, let us know how it goes :)
Okay, so no figures from anyone yet but I have sent messages out to LA Guitars in London, Andy Warnock in Kent and Ian Allerton at Guitar Works, London. LA Guitars I need to call, Ian Allerton I'm currently in talks with. He sent examples of his work and they look great (pics below) but sounds like it'll be quite expensive - no ballpark yet.

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Re: I'm back... 56 Les Paul Custom

Post by garyptaszek » Tue May 07, 2024 8:29 am

zhivago wrote:
Mon May 06, 2024 1:23 pm
JSett wrote:
Mon May 06, 2024 1:03 pm
Yeah Andy is supposedly the go-to guy by UK guitar 'stars' and has very little online presence seemingly deliberately as his work is retarded enough to be purely word of mouth. I've played guitars he's refretted and they have been impeccable.
Very good to hear this, especially as my LP could use a fret dress...might just drop him a line and see what his availability is. :)
Andy has refretted 3 of my guitars, and done fret work, and nut work on many others.

Here’s some pics of my Tele Deluxe he refretted and made a new bone nut for.
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Re: I'm back... 56 Les Paul Custom

Post by welshywelsh » Tue May 07, 2024 9:44 am

Playing devil's advocate (because you know I like you mate!) If the serial number is something that can be done by anyone....does it really hold the weight to a collector?

I have no idea about Gibsons, so not qualified at all to comment really, just seems a tad odd that it doesn't have to go back to Gibson or something for it to be official.

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Re: I'm back... 56 Les Paul Custom

Post by JSett » Tue May 07, 2024 10:45 am

welshywelsh wrote:
Tue May 07, 2024 9:44 am
Playing devil's advocate (because you know I like you mate!) If the serial number is something that can be done by anyone....does it really hold the weight to a collector?

I have no idea about Gibsons, so not qualified at all to comment really, just seems a tad odd that it doesn't have to go back to Gibson or something for it to be official.
It's more about how it looks to potential buyers should I choose to sell it at some point. It's better to have a restored 2x3" area with the serial reinstated than a glaring scratch-off that just makes everything think it's stolen all the time :fp:
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