MattK wrote: ↑Tue Mar 26, 2024 5:30 pm
Just so we're clear, responding to someone calling out your sexism by telling them to lighten up is a total dick move, and you want to have a think about why you need the right to express crappy attitudes unchallenged.
To be fair, you're glossing over the fact I politely explained it was humour - bad taste to some sure, I saw that when I re-read it and so I apologised. I'm willing to explain this more, so consider what I'm writing next an extension of that.
A 'dick move" would have been doubling down on my position and insulting everyone, which I didn't do. So I think you're a bit out of line saying that and saying
I'm sexist - the joke might have been considered such, but it's unfair to assume the person saying it is bud, that's a step too far. Calling out that kind of behaviour, sure, I get it, but if you really lean into chastising someone for it the end result can sometimes be they act even worse just to wind up those they've offended more. I mean, I won't, which is why I'm bothering to write this civil response, but a lot of people would, and really it's not something you want to encourage especially when someone has apologised and had a "point taken" kind of moment.
To come at it another way, I'd like to think in this hypothetical situation, if a woman with any sense turned up and read that she wouldn't suddenly think everyone was like that, just the idiot saying it, so in that case me. Also, in my experience women tend to be a lot better than men at forgiveness as well, so again if someone said something in bad taste and apologised, being not the sort of person to usually say anything like that, most would accept it and move on. As in they would be smart enough to not tar everyone with the same brush, so to be honest ironically you're selling women a bit short there I find.
Perhaps you should have asked why I consider guitars, cars (and a few other things actually) feminine even though my first language is English and obviously it doesn't usually do masculine and feminine pronouns for inanimate objects. The answer would probably surprise you!
MattK wrote: ↑Tue Mar 26, 2024 5:30 pm
people tired of sexism from a discussion board which has collapsed into a boring sausage fest for the most part
Wait, are you saying that OSG is like that? I hope not because nothing I've seen in the past few days suggests it is, if so. Quite the opposite in fact. Saying something is a "boring sausage fest", let's remember, is insulting because you're implying a larger percentage of men is boring, and it would only be interesting with more women. I mean, I see your point, but there's better ways to say it.