The Truth About Chinese Fibsons...

[jim93]

What do Fender/ Apple / Gibson expect when they subcontract out to cheap labor in countries with a weak track record of protecting intellectual property. Kind of a reap what you sow situation given that they could move manufacturing to a different country with a better track record, they could consider it IP insurance.

Some article on why they chose to subcontract Chinese manufacturers.

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/286080/20120123/iphone-why-t-made-u-s.htm

Glamorous lifestyle for the bottom line which just goes back to if they get their IP stolen than they just reaped what they sowed

[slavemaster]

What do Fender/ Apple / Gibson expect when they subcontract out to cheap labor in countries with a weak track record of protecting intellectual property. Kind of a reap what you sow situation given that they could move manufacturing to a different country with a better track record, they could consider it IP insurance.

Some article on why they chose to subcontract Chinese manufacturers.

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/286080/20120123/iphone-why-t-made-u-s.htm

Glamorous lifestyle for the bottom line which just goes back to if they get their IP stolen than they just reaped what they sowed

Agreed! As a matter of fact, I think 10% is not enough. Much more is needed to restore the cosmic balance.

[jim93]

Some article on why they chose to subcontract Chinese manufacturers.

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/286080/20120123/iphone-why-t-made-u-s.htm

Glamorous lifestyle for the bottom line which just goes back to if they get their IP stolen than they just reaped what they sowed

Agreed! As a matter of fact, I think 10% is not enough. Much more is needed to restore the cosmic balance.

They should also consider paying theyre taxes
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/13/irs-auditing-google-overseas-profits_n_1008617.html
High or not it doesnt give you the right to avoid taxes at least until I as an average citizen can avoid my taxes with the excuse that they are too high.

[FillmoreJive]

As much as I hate knockoffs, could anyone PM me some info about acquiring these, I just thought of a project!

[greyman]

I snagged one of these over the weekend. It's a Goldtop LP w/ p-90. Here is a photo from the CL ad.


The tuners, TR cover, and pots have been updated by the previous owner. He did a little relicing, which is pretty well done. Not over the top. I would still like to upgrade the pickups and the remaining plastic.

The guitar is set up with 10s and super low action, which I'm not used to. But it's a great playing guitar. It looks and plays a lot nicer than those 60s tributes IMHO.

I paid a little bit of a premium to be able to play this guitar in person, but it was still very cheap. I'm really excited about it. More pics to come.

[tonewoods]

He did a little relicing.....

Are these things Nitro or Poly???

[greyman]

It's Poly. A pretty freaking thick coat on the back. It's not sticky or anything though.

[cmatthes]

That one doesn't look exactly like a Les Paul - looks more like a thinner-bodied Epiphone. They are however, getting much better in the last year. My son snagged one pretty cheap a couple of months ago, and it the measurements are dead on, and the logo, headstock shape, etc. is exactly the same as his LP Standard. The only giveaway was the font on the serial number was slightly off (and too deliberate), and the fret ends were over the binding.

[bluenote23]

I don't know about the more recent ones but I once had a bad experience with a counterfeit Black LP Custom. One of the big minuses is under the paint. The guitar had a plywood body. Beware.

[greyman]

I played a returned 60's tribute last night at my local shop. My Fibson blew it away. The fit and finish were nicer than that and it looks way cooler. The shape may not be 100% accurate, I am not enough of an expert to tell. It's close though. I really love the neck on it. It has a super flat radius, which I didn't know I liked.

To be fair though, there were also a number of Epiphones that also blew away the Gibson 60s tribute. Those things don't do anything for me anymore.

[Amber]

Well I've had the PRS copy a week now and I'm probably taking it in for a good setup early next week. The nut is too high so the first 5 frets or so are sharp and I can't intonate the thing.

Thinking of upgrading the tuners. Guess I'll see how the setup goes first. Going to try and take some of the finish from the neck after also. I'm probably going to buy another in a few months and have them do it sea foam green all over with no fret inlays and an ebony board. If the guitar comes back good, it's going to make a good studio guitar and I'll probably try and install a Fernandes sustainer in one sometime and maybe set one up for midi.

[Amber]

Just an update on the PRS copy I bought. I removed the pickups and in the cavities, I can see that the lines in the maple top follow down at least half an each so it IS a maple cap. Just waiting on a humbucker and some parts and will be taking it in to get setup next week hopefully.

[Amber]

So I took the PRS copy into Wild Guitars on the 21st and got it back today.

It needed a good setup, nut reglueing (I pulled it out and was going to replace it but decided to reuse it), I had a push/pull volume knob for coil split in the bridge. Dave said it had a slightly warped neck and a lip at the end of the fretboard (or something like that) and needed some fret work (looked like they hadn't done any fret work when I got it). Had it setup with 10s and it plays great!

Dave was suprised by the top on it for the money and I know he's been around all sorts of guitars for a long time.

Taking a bit of getting used to since I've been on a maple fretboard strat for 5 years. Plays just as good as my old Japanese Tokai LP I paid about £800 for a few years ago that was setup by a left handed tech.

I'll post pics soon.

[BigMack999]

That 355 is freaking beautiful! Could I get a review of it and possibly a link to where to buy it?? Pretty please?

[budda12ax7]

so.....where can I get these..............