Fender XII 1966 sunburst, tort

Discussion of vintage Jazzmasters, Jaguars, Bass VIs, Electric XIIs and any other offset-waist instruments.
CROSS_guitars
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 1991
Joined: Tue Sep 09, 2008 5:52 am
Location: Thornbury Melbourne
Contact:

Fender XII 1966 sunburst, tort

Post by CROSS_guitars » Fri May 03, 2019 9:39 pm

I never thought I would ever have one of these in my possession!
Just needs a slight setup.
It's all original and in excellent condition.

Image
Image
Image
Image
Image
Image

These necks are way fatter than I expected.
I wish I had access to this guitar when I was making hockey stick necks for people.
Last edited by CROSS_guitars on Sun May 05, 2019 10:33 pm, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
countertext
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 2869
Joined: Wed Sep 28, 2011 6:25 pm
Location: Tacoma

Re: Fender XII 1966? sunburst, tort

Post by countertext » Fri May 03, 2019 10:20 pm

Dang... so clean!

User avatar
kapepper
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 286
Joined: Thu Dec 22, 2011 11:51 am

Re: Fender XII 1966? sunburst, tort

Post by kapepper » Fri May 03, 2019 11:13 pm

Very nice :-*
And the right amount of playwear

User avatar
Paul-T
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 192
Joined: Mon Jun 11, 2018 4:41 am
Location: London

Re: Fender XII 1966? sunburst, tort

Post by Paul-T » Fri May 03, 2019 11:34 pm

Looks great. That clean, subtle, 3-tone sunburst is so cool!
"classic marked down to 20 pence bargain bin fodder'

User avatar
marqueemoon
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 2965
Joined: Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:37 pm
Location: Seattle

Re: Fender XII 1966? sunburst, tort

Post by marqueemoon » Sat May 04, 2019 5:40 am

Dots and no binding. That makes it a pretty early one, right?

CROSS_guitars
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 1991
Joined: Tue Sep 09, 2008 5:52 am
Location: Thornbury Melbourne
Contact:

Re: Fender XII 1966? sunburst, tort

Post by CROSS_guitars » Sat May 04, 2019 6:38 am

marqueemoon wrote:
Sat May 04, 2019 5:40 am
Dots and no binding. That makes it a pretty early one, right?
I'm about to pop the neck off and find out.
Stay "tuned"......

N0_Camping4U
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 910
Joined: Thu Oct 03, 2013 1:59 pm

Re: Fender XII 1966? sunburst, tort

Post by N0_Camping4U » Sat May 04, 2019 6:56 am

I have a partscaster xii, I posted a topic awhile ago showing it off, but I love it. I'm sure you love yours too.
Eric Harris: I’m sorry I have so much rage, but you put it on me.

User avatar
kapepper
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 286
Joined: Thu Dec 22, 2011 11:51 am

Re: Fender XII 1966? sunburst, tort

Post by kapepper » Sat May 04, 2019 7:57 am

CROSS_guitars wrote:
Sat May 04, 2019 6:38 am
marqueemoon wrote:
Sat May 04, 2019 5:40 am
Dots and no binding. That makes it a pretty early one, right?
I'm about to pop the neck off and find out.
Stay "tuned"......
Pretty sure this is a 66 or maybe 67.

F tuners started in Jan 66.

Sunburst are mainly dots no binding. At least I have never seen a picture of a sunburst block-binding.
Blocks and binding, again from the pictures i have seen are mainly linked to custom colors or necks reused for sunburst mavericks Or shenandoahs

User avatar
marqueemoon
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 2965
Joined: Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:37 pm
Location: Seattle

Re: Fender XII 1966? sunburst, tort

Post by marqueemoon » Sat May 04, 2019 10:27 am

Ah, interesting, so binding was part of the upgrade package with a custom color?

I always assumed the XII followed the same progression of early CBS JMs and Jags having dots (and binding) before switching to blocks (and binding).

Are all XIIs considered “post CBS”? Was the model something that was in development prior to the takeover?

User avatar
kapepper
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 286
Joined: Thu Dec 22, 2011 11:51 am

Re: Fender XII 1966? sunburst, tort

Post by kapepper » Sat May 04, 2019 10:37 am

marqueemoon wrote:
Sat May 04, 2019 10:27 am
Ah, interesting, so binding was part of the upgrade package with a custom color?

I always assumed the XII followed the same progression of early CBS JMs and Jags having dots (and binding) before switching to blocks (and binding).

Are all XIIs considered “post CBS”? Was the model something that was in development prior to the takeover?
The xii was developed and designed by Leo fender before the take over already but first production xii was released mid 65.
I don’t think blocks and binding was particularly linked to custom colors, but I only see them coming on custom colors xii. (I just checked google and I found one lefty and 1 normal sb blocks and binding, but I guess there are the exception on the rule)

Also the fender xii didn’t last very long. Already stopped in 68. Unused stock from the xii and other guitars where then used to build the maverick starting in 69

User avatar
gringopig
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 164
Joined: Sun Jul 08, 2018 2:36 am
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland

Re: Fender XII 1966? sunburst, tort

Post by gringopig » Sat May 04, 2019 11:09 am

Very good looking guitar!
Very clean and a good looking sunburst. Lovely!

User avatar
Mechanical Birds
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 1942
Joined: Sat Aug 22, 2015 1:24 pm

Re: Fender XII 1966? sunburst, tort

Post by Mechanical Birds » Sat May 04, 2019 4:37 pm

kapepper wrote:
Sat May 04, 2019 10:37 am
marqueemoon wrote:
Sat May 04, 2019 10:27 am
Ah, interesting, so binding was part of the upgrade package with a custom color?

I always assumed the XII followed the same progression of early CBS JMs and Jags having dots (and binding) before switching to blocks (and binding).

Are all XIIs considered “post CBS”? Was the model something that was in development prior to the takeover?
The xii was developed and designed by Leo fender before the take over already but first production xii was released mid 65.
I don’t think blocks and binding was particularly linked to custom colors, but I only see them coming on custom colors xii. (I just checked google and I found one lefty and 1 normal sb blocks and binding, but I guess there are the exception on the rule)

Also the fender xii didn’t last very long. Already stopped in 68. Unused stock from the xii and other guitars where then used to build the maverick starting in 69
Kind of the same deal with the Mustang, I THINK the Bronco and, tho it wasn’t Leo who designed it, the Coronado, yeah? I think a lot about like, what Leo would have come up with had CBS insisted he stay on in the same capacity as before they bought the company. He worked as a consultant for the rest of the 60s there but we see a clear and sharp drop off in him really doing anything from like, 1965-him leaving. Maybe those early Music Man guitars end up as Fender designs but I dunno - those guitars, while being an obvious kind of Fender thing in their own right, at the same time weren’t? Not sure how to explain what I mean, but in my dreams they finish the Marauder v2 and it goes down with Jaguars and Jazzmasters as the least desirable of the three and I’m buying them for like $1,000 today.

I guess it could have gone the other way and him and George end up with a really nasty LSD habit and Leo starts insisting that they drop paint in favor of neon shag carpeting for their finishing material because he swears it gives the amplified signal the most direct and clean path and a lot of us don’t even know what a Fender is because by 1970 the company was dead and buried and Gibson owns it only to keep it dead before reviving it on the 50th anniversary of Jimi’s Death to release a tribute Strat that’s quality-wise on-par with that Firebird 0 thing they did.

CROSS_guitars
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 1991
Joined: Tue Sep 09, 2008 5:52 am
Location: Thornbury Melbourne
Contact:

Re: Fender XII 1966? sunburst, tort

Post by CROSS_guitars » Sun May 05, 2019 9:29 pm

It's a '66.

Image
Image
Image
Image
Image
Image
Image
Image

User avatar
kapepper
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 286
Joined: Thu Dec 22, 2011 11:51 am

Re: Fender XII 1966? sunburst, tort

Post by kapepper » Sun May 05, 2019 10:06 pm

Looks good and in nice condition.
What date on the pots? Might be 65 pots...

CROSS_guitars
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 1991
Joined: Tue Sep 09, 2008 5:52 am
Location: Thornbury Melbourne
Contact:

Re: Fender XII 1966 sunburst, tort

Post by CROSS_guitars » Sun May 05, 2019 10:55 pm

First, the good news, although it looks like someone replaced the capacitor. :fp:

Image
Image
Image

Trigger warning.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
AAOOOWW!
It's a fucking nightmare!

Image
What dickhead would do this?????
weight relief? were they planning on sticking some humbuckers in it?
At least get someone to rout it.

Image

Seeing this ruined my day :(

Post Reply