"Why did you do it? Why did you do this thing to me?"

Discussion of vintage Jazzmasters, Jaguars, Bass VIs, Electric XIIs and any other offset-waist instruments.
Post Reply
User avatar
rank
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 1122
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2010 8:35 am

Re: "Why did you do it? Why did you do this thing to me?"

Post by rank » Sun Jun 09, 2019 4:50 am

marqueemoon wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:14 pm
Speaking of refins, this one makes me Grimace.

https://reverb.com/item/21473572-fender ... gundy-mist
I see what you did there. ;D
We are merely moving shadows-PS. 39:4-7

User avatar
øøøøøøø
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 4818
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2008 8:26 pm
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Contact:

Re: "Why did you do it? Why did you do this thing to me?"

Post by øøøøøøø » Sun Jun 09, 2019 5:16 am

rank wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2019 4:50 am
marqueemoon wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:14 pm
Speaking of refins, this one makes me Grimace.

https://reverb.com/item/21473572-fender ... gundy-mist
I see what you did there. ;D
ha! that was good

User avatar
marqueemoon
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 3758
Joined: Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:37 pm
Location: Seattle

Re: "Why did you do it? Why did you do this thing to me?"

Post by marqueemoon » Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:43 am

I like the color. It’s just shoddily done, and it sure as hell isn’t “Burgandy Mist”.

X-Ray Spex
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 607
Joined: Thu Jun 05, 2014 7:18 am

Re: "Why did you do it? Why did you do this thing to me?"

Post by X-Ray Spex » Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:50 am

Whatever the hell is going on here, A Fender Marauder's scale length is 25.5 but a Gibson Marauder neck is 24.75 so it'd never intonate properly https://reverb.com/item/22365091-fender ... auder-neck
''It's not what you play, it's what you play'' - Troy Van Leeuwen

User avatar
601210
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 949
Joined: Mon Sep 08, 2008 3:55 am

Re: "Why did you do it? Why did you do this thing to me?"

Post by 601210 » Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:19 am

X-Ray Spex wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:50 am
Whatever the hell is going on here, A Fender Marauder's scale length is 25.5 but a Gibson Marauder neck is 24.75 so it'd never intonate properly https://reverb.com/item/22365091-fender ... auder-neck
Haha yeah I don't know what these people are thinking. It looks like the same guitar here:

https://reverb.com/item/10267658-fendso ... r-marauder

And you can find a separate posting for the gibson here:

https://reverb.com/item/22365127-1970s- ... auder-neck

Some people are just really desperate to be "different".

User avatar
mgeek
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 1257
Joined: Mon Mar 17, 2014 1:03 pm

Re: "Why did you do it? Why did you do this thing to me?"

Post by mgeek » Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:49 am

601210 wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:19 am


Some people are just really desperate to be "different".
without having an ounce of creativity to pull it off... S'pose it's a tad more creative than the 'revolutionary' mashups of a Fender body design with another Fender's hardware on it, but it's still a pile of crap.

User avatar
Pacafeliz
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 16284
Joined: Sun Jul 29, 2007 6:34 pm
Location: Cococologne, Germany

Re: "Why did you do it? Why did you do this thing to me?"

Post by Pacafeliz » Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:18 am

:fp:
i love delay SO much ...that i procrastinate all the time.

User avatar
CROSS_guitars
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 2143
Joined: Tue Sep 09, 2008 5:52 am
Location: Thornbury Melbourne

Re: "Why did you do it? Why did you do this thing to me?"

Post by CROSS_guitars » Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:54 pm

X-Ray Spex wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:50 am
Whatever the hell is going on here, A Fender Marauder's scale length is 25.5 but a Gibson Marauder neck is 24.75 so it'd never intonate properly https://reverb.com/item/22365091-fender ... auder-neck
Looks like the neck heel has been routed in a bit so I reckon it probably would intonate.
It's quite a nightmare though.

User avatar
marqueemoon
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 3758
Joined: Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:37 pm
Location: Seattle

Re: "Why did you do it? Why did you do this thing to me?"

Post by marqueemoon » Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:28 pm

601210 wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:19 am
X-Ray Spex wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:50 am
Whatever the hell is going on here, A Fender Marauder's scale length is 25.5 but a Gibson Marauder neck is 24.75 so it'd never intonate properly https://reverb.com/item/22365091-fender ... auder-neck
Haha yeah I don't know what these people are thinking. It looks like the same guitar here:

https://reverb.com/item/10267658-fendso ... r-marauder

And you can find a separate posting for the gibson here:

https://reverb.com/item/22365127-1970s- ... auder-neck

Some people are just really desperate to be "different".
These abominations are local to me and I have the Peterson strobe tuner app. :freako: :'(

User avatar
Kinx
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 179
Joined: Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:27 am
Location: Czech Republic

Re: "Why did you do it? Why did you do this thing to me?"

Post by Kinx » Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:15 pm

I actually kinde like the looks of it, it is so bad, it's cool in a way. However, I doubt it would intonate anywhere on the neck
Check out my band, The Atavists ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG-HZtrljMg

User avatar
mgeek
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 1257
Joined: Mon Mar 17, 2014 1:03 pm

Re: "Why did you do it? Why did you do this thing to me?"

Post by mgeek » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:14 am

marqueemoon wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:28 pm

These abominations are local to me and I have the Peterson strobe tuner app. :freako: :'(
Is it a physical shop too? Had a look at their other items and was surprised to see some pretty high end guitars. Personally I'd view those hideous mashups as a bit of a reputation ruiner. I'd deffo be less inclined to spend my money at a place that would do such a thing

User avatar
Zork
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 1135
Joined: Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:01 am
Location: Bremen, Germany

Re: "Why did you do it? Why did you do this thing to me?"

Post by Zork » Thu Jun 13, 2019 3:05 am

Image

This should work. I think they both look really cool and it's kind of my humour too. Plain stupid and way too nerdy to be funny.

User avatar
marqueemoon
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 3758
Joined: Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:37 pm
Location: Seattle

Re: "Why did you do it? Why did you do this thing to me?"

Post by marqueemoon » Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:43 am

mgeek wrote:
Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:14 am
marqueemoon wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:28 pm

These abominations are local to me and I have the Peterson strobe tuner app. :freako: :'(
Is it a physical shop too? Had a look at their other items and was surprised to see some pretty high end guitars. Personally I'd view those hideous mashups as a bit of a reputation ruiner. I'd deffo be less inclined to spend my money at a place that would do such a thing
Yes, it’s a brick-and-mortar shop. It’s one of the older ones around here, actually.

I think the vintage guitar market is due for a major correction soon. Vintage guitars are really the domain of Baby Boomers, and of course they can’t take their gear with them.

I think as a shop you need to offer the kids these days something to spend their avocado toast money on, but these are pretty bad.

User avatar
mgeek
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 1257
Joined: Mon Mar 17, 2014 1:03 pm

Re: "Why did you do it? Why did you do this thing to me?"

Post by mgeek » Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:11 am

marqueemoon wrote:
Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:43 am


Yes, it’s a brick-and-mortar shop. It’s one of the older ones around here, actually.

I think the vintage guitar market is due for a major correction soon. Vintage guitars are really the domain of Baby Boomers, and of course they can’t take their gear with them.
Yeah totally agree. In 20 years no one is gonna pay stupid money for a strat cos Eric Clapton played one. And like all the classic bubbles, most currently expensive vintage guitars aren't the rare ones, they are the most common...

User avatar
Mechanical Birds
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 2287
Joined: Sat Aug 22, 2015 1:24 pm

Re: "Why did you do it? Why did you do this thing to me?"

Post by Mechanical Birds » Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:48 am

Yeah, it’s really beyond ridiculous. I’d have bought ten jaguars and 15 Jazzmasters in the early-2000s if I had any idea whatsoever that they’d eventually skyrocket the way they have in price. I know a lot of us feel that way but it’s annoying that even though that’s a common sentiment, it’s not lowering prices. Even five years ago I could have bought my dream guitar for damn close to half of what these monsters are trying to get for them today.

Searching reverb for 1966 Jazzmasters and seeing people with a straight face list them for $4,000/$5,000, and that’s not even the custom color ones.

I like to hope that we’ll see some kind of correction, and basic economics says it’ll happen the same way art glass from my home state until the past few years was a highly valuable commodity until typical collectors started dying off in large numbers and leaving massive collections to flood the market which enables me to buy cool vaseline glass for pennies on the dollar at flea markets every weekend. Vintage guitars are something else entirely, though. What is cheap? A new Les Paul or current top of the line Strat is $1,500-$2,500 - so does this mean the new guitars will come way down in price too? Because if I can look at a 62 Jazzmaster and an AO60s Jazzmaster side by side and the AO60s is $2,000 brand new, it wouldn’t make a lot of sense to own one if you can just get a vintage one, a real one, for the same amount of money.

I know a pre-CBS Stratocaster is tens of thousands of dollars at this point so comparatively, if that drops down to $10,000 of course that’s technically cheaper, but still unattainable for any working musician. For fucks sake, $5,000 is more money than an insane majority of guitarists can afford.

Someone who’s more well-versed in economics - I would love to see some kind of explanation, or projection, if that’s possible. Are $25,000 guitars going to become $10,000 guitars and everybody calls it a win? Or should we expect something a little more substantial that’ll actually affect us in a positive way? Is knowing any of this even remotely possible? Personally I’d love to see the market crash and be able to buy amazing examples of everything I’ve ever wanted for the same price as an American Standard, I just don’t ever see that happening.

Post Reply