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It's never been pinned as far as I know. I'd be ok with that. Never thought to ask about doing that...
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All good! I'm trying to work it out my self, but get lot on the bass cut & connecting it back to the S/P switch. I'm in no rush:)Shadoweclipse13 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:16 pmThat schematic will work for you? I looked over what you drew up briefly, but last night at work was nuts. I wasn't sure the things you were going for specifically (phase, series-parallel, etc.).ID454 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2019 4:27 pmWell, funny thing... now thinking about what i just posted i should have just gone with the 7th or 8th diagram down in the OP.
Solo switch with the phase and series parallel that i wanted....Oh well i guess i just get added options at the expense of some confusion.
And min7b5, I haven't forgotten you! I'm hoping to get another schematic done this weekend, and I'll look over yours then, unless some time is freed up during the week this week.
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On the leather forum I moderate, we do that with threads that are technical and useful like this one.Shadoweclipse13 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 26, 2019 5:26 amIt's never been pinned as far as I know. I'd be ok with that. Never thought to ask about doing that...
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If the mods here want to sticky this thread, since people do use it as a resource, that would be cool. I also posted the link in my signature years ago for that reason as wellRgand wrote: ↑Wed Jun 26, 2019 6:17 amOn the leather forum I moderate, we do that with threads that are technical and useful like this one.Shadoweclipse13 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 26, 2019 5:26 amIt's never been pinned as far as I know. I'd be ok with that. Never thought to ask about doing that...
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Having it in your signature is a good idea, too.Shadoweclipse13 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 2:38 amIf the mods here want to sticky this thread, since people do use it as a resource, that would be cool. I also posted the link in my signature years ago for that reason as wellRgand wrote: ↑Wed Jun 26, 2019 6:17 amOn the leather forum I moderate, we do that with threads that are technical and useful like this one.Shadoweclipse13 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 26, 2019 5:26 amIt's never been pinned as far as I know. I'd be ok with that. Never thought to ask about doing that...
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Re: Shadoweclipse13's Master Schematic Page!
Hello! Is there any chance you could help me out with a simplified version of the Brian May layout/circuit, but parallel rather than series?
Just after an on/off for each pickup, and a volume and tone.
Also looking for a 2 pickup, 3 way rotary 4p3t (bridge/both/neck) with master vol and tone, layout
Any help would be much, much appreciated! I've tried following circuits along,and I'm starting to get how they might work, but not confident that I could draw my own out from scratch yet
Just after an on/off for each pickup, and a volume and tone.
Also looking for a 2 pickup, 3 way rotary 4p3t (bridge/both/neck) with master vol and tone, layout
Any help would be much, much appreciated! I've tried following circuits along,and I'm starting to get how they might work, but not confident that I could draw my own out from scratch yet
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I can do both very quickly, and may have a few minutes tomorrow morning after work to do them.mgeek wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:02 pmHello! Is there any chance you could help me out with a simplified version of the Brian May layout/circuit, but parallel rather than series?
Just after an on/off for each pickup, and a volume and tone.
Also looking for a 2 pickup, 3 way rotary 4p3t (bridge/both/neck) with master vol and tone, layout
Any help would be much, much appreciated! I've tried following circuits along,and I'm starting to get how they might work, but not confident that I could draw my own out from scratch yet
The first one is basically just a Bass VI with no strangle switch (the far right switch in the block of 4): essentially you have a common, and then each pickup's hot lead gets wired to either side of the switch (top if you want down to be the off-position, bottom if you want up to be the off-position).
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oooh thank you! They are both gonna be on the same guitar in a 2+2 stereo setup...can't wait to try it out. Looking at that, I can follow it, and think I can see how it'd work to just leave bits off. When I looked at the Brian May wiring (haha actually, what i want is nothing like that bar the switches, is it... ) all the phase stuff etc was too interconnected for me to grasp what was going on
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You're welcome! Do you still need help with the rotary schematic then?
One thing to thing about is that you could easily use a 3-way rotary switch (which are generally sold as a 3P4T, AKA 4-way) is have series as well. Kinda like a 4-way blade switch on a Tele.
One thing to thing about is that you could easily use a 3-way rotary switch (which are generally sold as a 3P4T, AKA 4-way) is have series as well. Kinda like a 4-way blade switch on a Tele.
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Yes please! Those are even more confusing to me...all those lugs! I've got one in my Vox Phantom but that's a 3 pos/3 pickups setupShadoweclipse13 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2019 11:35 pmYou're welcome! Do you still need help with the rotary schematic then?
One thing to thing about is that you could easily use a 3-way rotary switch (which are generally sold as a 3P4T, AKA 4-way) is have series as well. Kinda like a 4-way blade switch on a Tele.
The setup is gonna be two pairs of pickups running to two separate outputs- a normal set (burns trisonics with the rotary switch) then another pair (with the slide switches) that can be turned on or off for additional stereo effects
I was looking at something like this https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/products ... lsrc=aw.ds
but open to any/all suggestions!
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Just in case you're wondering. The center lug is generally the common for a rotary. The outer ones determine how many positions there are. This is just a rough example, but you see what I mean. For a project, you'll want to have a multimeter to check continuity between the outer and inner lugs for each position, to make sure you wire it right, but once you do, you'll understand it very well.
I would say to probably get one with a metal shaft (and likely a shorter length shaft), unless your guitar has a thick top or deep pot holes. Heh, pot holes When I draw up the schematic, I'll link to which one would work, so you shouldn't have any trouble. Are you in the UK, US, or elsewhere?
So, the 2 groups will be running completely independently with no cross-over?
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Thanks a lot dude! I'm in the UKShadoweclipse13 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:14 am
Just in case you're wondering. The center lug is generally the common for a rotary. The outer ones determine how many positions there are. This is just a rough example, but you see what I mean. For a project, you'll want to have a multimeter to check continuity between the outer and inner lugs for each position, to make sure you wire it right, but once you do, you'll understand it very well.
I would say to probably get one with a metal shaft (and likely a shorter length shaft), unless your guitar has a thick top or deep pot holes. Heh, pot holes When I draw up the schematic, I'll link to which one would work, so you shouldn't have any trouble. Are you in the UK, US, or elsewhere?
So, the 2 groups will be running completely independently with no cross-over?
So is 'common' the same as ground/earth/negative? I've got a murky understanding of that stuff, but this is really helpful.
Yeah I'll find something a bit more sturdy- I've used one of these before in my Vox, because I thought what was in there was original and I'd be replacing like with like, but actually...suspect it might have been a replacement. I just sawed the (plastic) shaft down on that!
Aaand yep, independently with no crossover! I want to have a regular set running through one amp and then a secondary set going into another signal chain that can be flicked on or off for additional stereo effects
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Ok cool. I'll search for the switch you'll need, when I finish it tomorrow. I got home this morning, opened my computer, started to draw, and passed out for like 30 minutes. I needed sleep badly. I'll do it after work this morning, seeing how I got a bit of sleep todaymgeek wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:01 amThanks a lot dude! I'm in the UK
So is 'common' the same as ground/earth/negative? I've got a murky understanding of that stuff, but this is really helpful.
Yeah I'll find something a bit more sturdy- I've used one of these before in my Vox, because I thought what was in there was original and I'd be replacing like with like, but actually...suspect it might have been a replacement. I just sawed the (plastic) shaft down on that!
Aaand yep, independently with no crossover! I want to have a regular set running through one amp and then a secondary set going into another signal chain that can be flicked on or off for additional stereo effects
Ground/earth and negative aren't the same as common in regard to switching. Switches use different terminals/lugs for different reasons. In this case, when I say common (referring to my rotary explanation/drawing), I mean the inner dot/lug. It's common because the signal goes from whichever outer lug is selected to the common. The common always has a connection with one of the outer lugs, and it's only the outer lugs that change when you rotate the switch.
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aha! thanks so much dude, I've got a bunch of finishing work to do on the proj so no whenever you canShadoweclipse13 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:05 pmOk cool. I'll search for the switch you'll need, when I finish it tomorrow. I got home this morning, opened my computer, started to draw, and passed out for like 30 minutes. I needed sleep badly. I'll do it after work this morning, seeing how I got a bit of sleep todaymgeek wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:01 amThanks a lot dude! I'm in the UK
So is 'common' the same as ground/earth/negative? I've got a murky understanding of that stuff, but this is really helpful.
Yeah I'll find something a bit more sturdy- I've used one of these before in my Vox, because I thought what was in there was original and I'd be replacing like with like, but actually...suspect it might have been a replacement. I just sawed the (plastic) shaft down on that!
Aaand yep, independently with no crossover! I want to have a regular set running through one amp and then a secondary set going into another signal chain that can be flicked on or off for additional stereo effects
Ground/earth and negative aren't the same as common in regard to switching. Switches use different terminals/lugs for different reasons. In this case, when I say common (referring to my rotary explanation/drawing), I mean the inner dot/lug. It's common because the signal goes from whichever outer lug is selected to the common. The common always has a connection with one of the outer lugs, and it's only the outer lugs that change when you rotate the switch.
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ooh just been looking at your build thread...would those NKK rocker switches work instead of the little sliders on the on/off circuit? I *love* rocker switches, ever since having a Fenton Weill triplemaster...they feel really good
++ one thing I need to keep in mind is the depth of the switches. The guitar is only 30mm or so deep overall
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The slider switches shouldn't be an issue. I found that they only need 3/4" (19mm) cavity depth. I wouldn't recommend it, but if you REALLY needed to, you could probably the lugs outward just a little bit, to give you an extra millimeter or two.
For rocker switches, I'd recommend NKK M-series. I have some M-series for a project and they're really nice. You can switch the caps to get different colors too. Here's the PDF data sheet for them.
For rocker switches, I'd recommend NKK M-series. I have some M-series for a project and they're really nice. You can switch the caps to get different colors too. Here's the PDF data sheet for them.
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http://www.offsetguitars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=104282&p=1438384#p1438384
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