NGD: Fender Mustang in Competition Burgundy Blue

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NGD: Fender Mustang in Competition Burgundy Blue

Post by GoodAugust » Fri Nov 01, 2019 7:47 pm

Before I need to pull off the neck, can anyone help identify what year my guitar is? Dealer said it was 1970, Ran serial check and it came up 68, checked several patent numbers which then lead me to believe it was possibly 67. It came with supposedly the ohsc, which looks like every 60s case I've ever seen. I know sn's overlapped in those days, but I also know that they phased out the white lettering and added a second string tree by 1970. Any answers or knowledge in general would be grateful. If I need to do anything further, please do let me know.

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Re: NGD: Fender Mustang in Competition Burgundy Blue

Post by Embenny » Sat Nov 02, 2019 7:04 am

The matching headstock competition mustangs were all made from 1969-1970. There may be parts here or there that date to earlier (because they sat in a bin, etc), but if you check the dates on the neck, pickups, and pots, you'll find that it's either 1969 or 1970. The matching headstocks were dropped in 1971.

That's a beautiful guitar, by the way. Competition burgundy with matching headstock is one of the best looks ever sported by an offset.
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Re: NGD: Fender Mustang in Competition Burgundy Blue

Post by N0_Camping4U » Sat Nov 02, 2019 7:06 am

Dude, this is amazing.
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Re: NGD: Fender Mustang in Competition Burgundy Blue

Post by MechaBulletBill » Sat Nov 02, 2019 7:32 am

wow, that's incredible. love it.

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Re: NGD: Fender Mustang in Competition Burgundy Blue

Post by supersonicjazzmaster » Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:20 am

Ah wonderful!
Congratulations.

I was getting nearly a similar one...
I was told it´s a ´69.
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Re: NGD: Fender Mustang in Competition Burgundy Blue

Post by GoodAugust » Sun Nov 03, 2019 6:45 am

mbene085 wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 7:04 am
The matching headstock competition mustangs were all made from 1969-1970. There may be parts here or there that date to earlier (because they sat in a bin, etc), but if you check the dates on the neck, pickups, and pots, you'll find that it's either 1969 or 1970. The matching headstocks were dropped in 1971.

That's a beautiful guitar, by the way. Competition burgundy with matching headstock is one of the best looks ever sported by an offset.
Thank you! I'll look at dinner date codes on the pots and the neck stamp then. The SN on the back dates to 68 which confused me a bit.

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Re: NGD: Fender Mustang in Competition Burgundy Blue

Post by aliendawg » Sun Nov 03, 2019 8:40 am

Wow!! Beautiful. Can we get a shot of the whole guitar?
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Re: NGD: Fender Mustang in Competition Burgundy Blue

Post by GoodAugust » Sun Nov 03, 2019 8:47 am

aliendawg wrote:
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Wow!! Beautiful. Can we get a shot of the whole guitar?
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Re: NGD: Fender Mustang in Competition Burgundy Blue

Post by MechaBulletBill » Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:20 am

Even the case is mint!!

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Re: NGD: Fender Mustang in Competition Burgundy Blue

Post by GoodAugust » Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:24 am

The case is in good condition, though there looks to be some impact damage on one of the sides, the snap button top is removed, and the middle latch is broken. Still though, the inside is spectacularly intact otherwise and I'm very happy.

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Re: NGD: Fender Mustang in Competition Burgundy Blue

Post by kapepper » Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:20 pm

Very nice!!!! Congrats

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Re: NGD: Fender Mustang in Competition Burgundy Blue

Post by hornz » Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:35 pm

Whoa, very nice. I'm partial to a Compstang :? :-*
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Re: NGD: Fender Mustang in Competition Burgundy Blue

Post by Mechanical Birds » Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:12 pm

Beyond the 66 Lake Placid Blue Jaguar, the competition Burgundy Mustang is the coolest looking guitar Fender ever masses produced. Just looks infinitely cool and the variation, like this one doesn’t seem to have a lot of purple, but still looks rad as hell.

Something else I notice with these is that poly can most definitely still age in really, really cool ways that make it, to me, indistinguishable from nitrocellulose. I only wish Fender Still had access to those chemicals/methods because that’s what people give a shit about, at least what I give a shit about, is the ability to age like they used to. I know they market reissues as being finished in nitro but that means nothing if it isn’t reacting and aging the way they used to.

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Re: NGD: Fender Mustang in Competition Burgundy Blue

Post by GoodAugust » Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:32 pm

Mechanical Birds wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:12 pm
Beyond the 66 Lake Placid Blue Jaguar, the competition Burgundy Mustang is the coolest looking guitar Fender ever masses produced. Just looks infinitely cool and the variation, like this one doesn’t seem to have a lot of purple, but still looks rad as hell.

Something else I notice with these is that poly can most definitely still age in really, really cool ways that make it, to me, indistinguishable from nitrocellulose. I only wish Fender Still had access to those chemicals/methods because that’s what people give a shit about, at least what I give a shit about, is the ability to age like they used to. I know they market reissues as being finished in nitro but that means nothing if it isn’t reacting and aging the way they used to.
I have seen a lacquer series jazzmaster which aged by sunlight to a completely different shade of green. It looked remarkably like pea soup, and under the guard was that perfect seafoam green color. I also fixed up a guys 90s Telecaster which had been played for nearly 3 decades that had done fantastic wear going on in the neck and on the body.

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Re: NGD: Fender Mustang in Competition Burgundy Blue

Post by Mechanical Birds » Sun Nov 03, 2019 7:18 pm

Oh I know I’m not frustrated personally, just pointing out that, to me, the whole use of ‘nitro finished’ is pretty much another thing on a long list of marketing terms, while even using nitro isn’t wholly necessary to get the desired affect.

I wonder if any of the currently produced guitars come close in process to these old competition Mustangs? Because they were most definitely finished in some sort of poly but aged like guitars that definitely weren’t finished in poly.

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