Which Orange combo should I save up for?

Stereordinary · Post by **Stereordinary** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:52 am

I've been GAS-ing for a second amp for a while now, and my fiancé wants me to get an Orange, because she thinks they're cute. I really can't argue with that logic (

) especially since I love Orange amps anyway. The black-face Fender will have to come later.

Since it'll mostly be for practice in my apartment and I already have a Marshall half-stack, I want a small 1x12" combo. It's just a bonus if I can take it to small jam sessions, and keep up with a loud-ass drummer, and also if I can mic it up and record with it.

I figure there's probably enough people here to give me some votes and opinions. Which ones have you played and what did you like about them? Are there issues that I'm not gonna know about reading the Orange website? Which one has the best speaker?

Commence!

Professor Plum · Post by **Professor Plum** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 10:21 am

hmmmmmm it depends what kinda thing you had in mind for it.

the AD30 will do mid-gain kinda jangely garage-rock stuff all day long and really just about anything you throw at it (though you might need a pedal if you want uber gain) and is a pretty rad amp... (i have the custom shop retro 50 head thats somewhere between an AD and the vintage OR's and its freaking awsome...) also if you look used you could find the single chennel version with reverb if thats what your into.,.. no effects loop. 2 channels are *basicaly* the same on this one

the rocker 30 is also a KICKIN amp... 2 channels (but relize the clean channel has ONLY a volume knob, no eq.... but thats ok because its voiced really really really well) and the dirt chennel has regular eq on it. more gain on tap than the AD and smaller in its 1x12 vs. 2x12 form. no reverb no fx loop.

basically the AD is a little more vintage and the rocker is a little more modern but both kick mojor ass and i dont think you would be dissapoined with either.... id stay away from the TT just because if you have the coin for the bigger brothers i def think its worth it... the TT sounds (as far as im aware) likte the little brother of the R30 but i havent played one so dont quote me on that... plus the oranges have sick master volumes so its cool to have more watts than less me thinks.

both come with v30 speakers(which agree with the oranges very nicely) , both have that warm huge orangey-ness to them that i love.

all that being said....

id seriously think about a head/cab set up as the orange cabs arre amazeing (id go 2x12 as in my experance the orange 2x12 has just a hair less bass than the 4x12 and is ALOT lighter, there built like tanks...) and you can even use that to make your marshall sound better (

) but thats just me... also if you playing around in a shop that has a few oranges dont pass up the RV50... i know thats not what you were looking for but its one of the nicest amps out there IMHO and worth atleast a try out....

i hope that helps, oranges are rad and good luck on your quest!

Stereordinary · Post by **Stereordinary** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 10:49 am

Thanks for the advice! That definitely helps. I totally forgot to mention that part of my decision is that I want to play my Bass VI through it. I'm into shoegaze-y stuff with reverb and delay, but I'm not a heavy effects guy. Just some subtle stuff, the occasional drenchedness, but mostly dry. I also don't like much eq or control over my amp, weird as that sounds. My amp settings are always just turn everything up to ten, and use the pre-amp volume knob for "loudness". Does that help narrow things a little?

I'll definitely look into the R50 as well.

Professor Plum · Post by **Professor Plum** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 11:04 am

r30 sounds cool espically if you say you like simple controlls the single volume knob clean channel takes zero time to get awsome sounds... but

RV 50 has awsome reverb and a slight "fenderyness" to it with 6v6's in the poweramp as opposed to el34's in the r30. which would be cool if you said you were looking for a fender too... i guess it would also have a little more power to thump with a VI too...

just more food for though.

Pingu · Post by **Pingu** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 1:35 pm

I'm planning to move up from my Crush to the TT combo when my wallet allows. The Crush is a great baby amp, but i'm looking for a band to join and it is just way too quiet to compete with a drummer. Have not tried the TT yet since it's so new, but the original version is fantastic.

EDIT: just watched this horrible demo video, and i'm considering boycotting all Orange products until the idiot hosting it is fired: http://youtube.com/watch?v=kq8IshRNuis

Professor Plum · Post by **Professor Plum** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 1:47 pm

Pingu wrote: I'm planning to move up from my Crush to the TT combo when my wallet allows. The Crush is a great baby amp, but i'm looking for a band to join and it is just way too quiet to compete with a drummer. Have not tried the TT yet since it's so new, but the original version is fantastic.

EDIT: just watched this horrible demo video, and i'm considering boycotting all Orange products until the idiot hosting it is fired: http://youtube.com/watch?v=kq8IshRNuis

what did he do? like i mean the sounds not great but im on the orange forum too and hes pretty awsome auctually. he gives us inside scoops on cool shit before most people know and if we ask for a demo of something spicific (pedal X+ whatever orange) and he has the pedal and time hell do a quick demo...

Pingu · Post by **Pingu** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 2:05 pm

Yeah, maybe "idiot" was too strong a word to use, but his playing is not exactly shedding any favorable light on the amp.

wooderson · Post by **wooderson** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 2:15 pm

Maybe it's just my mental association of Orange w/ indie and/or stoner-doom acts, but the playing he uses to demo the amps is odd.

OTOH, 90% of the youtube Tiny Terror videos are bad metal, so perhaps I'm just out of the demographic loop.

Professor Plum · Post by **Professor Plum** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 7:42 pm

wooderson wrote: Maybe it's just my mental association of Orange w/ indie and/or stoner-doom acts, but the playing he uses to demo the amps is odd.

OTOH, 90% of the youtube Tiny Terror videos are bad metal, so perhaps I'm just out of the demographic loop.

thats true, i defintaly dont like the playing a whole lot but just knowing he auctually goes out of his way on the orange forum to help people out and is pretty chill i guess i sounded a bit diffrent to me lol...... not tring to be an ass or anything...

RumorsOFsurF · Post by **RumorsOFsurF** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:31 pm

stereordinary wrote: Thanks for the advice! That definitely helps. I totally forgot to mention that part of my decision is that I want to play my Bass VI through it. I'm into shoegaze-y stuff with reverb and delay, but I'm not a heavy effects guy. Just some subtle stuff, the occasional drenchedness, but mostly dry.

That was a pretty big pedal board you had for a guy that's not in to effects.

BTW, I'd buy a blackface Fender instead....That's just me, though.

I'd kill for this:

Post by **mezcalhead** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:49 pm

stereordinary wrote: Since it'll mostly be for practice in my apartment

Any 30W+ Orange is going to be very loud for that. I'd vote for the TT, or an AD15 if you can find one (they only made them briefly but I played through one before I bought my Vox AC15 and it was very nice).

TheodorJ · Post by **TheodorJ** » Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:14 am

Although the Tiny Terror sounds really good, the AD30TC is much more versatile and I really prefer 2x12 to 1x12. 1x12 tends to sound a bit "boxy" to me.

wooderson · Post by **wooderson** » Mon Jul 07, 2008 1:49 pm

Supposed to be a new AD5 coming out soon - I was looking at a Tiny Terror, but if the AD5 is more garagey, I think that would be more my style.

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