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Re: interesting...

Post by noirengineer » Thu Apr 03, 2008 1:50 pm

mynameisjonas wrote: looks like it could be a slightly more versatile poor man's tiny terror 8)
def looks interesting, im curious i couldn't find a price on the link,
what are these going for? 

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Post by JazzBlaster » Thu Apr 03, 2008 8:18 pm

About $150 US and the are made by ST Louis music who also makes Crate and Ampeg. Been thinking about one myself.

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Post by mynameisjonas » Fri Apr 04, 2008 2:00 am

i think it's the little giants (5W) that are $150. the handsome devil (15W) seems to have just come out, and most places have it listed at $299.

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Post by fuzzking » Fri Apr 04, 2008 2:24 am

seem to be nice, not? is it really class A and handwired or just sales talk?
we brought my flatmate's "class A, handwired" fame amp to service and the guy laughed his arse off.

but hmm... a 30 W version combo and i'd be all over it - if they're as good as they say, that is.
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Post by mynameisjonas » Fri Apr 04, 2008 2:58 am

it's class A alright, but i don't know about handwired...

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Re: interesting...

Post by noirengineer » Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:03 am

PS:  I'm asking this, cause I still don't know!

isn't class A argument, a farce?  I read somewhere about that
it means nothing.. correct me if I'm wrong, but say you had a
class B amp and you had the vol/gain only cranked at 3-5,
then it's operating at (for example) class A, but past that
threshold it becomes class B?   I wish I had that link to the article.

I'm not sure, but I don't think it relates much in terms of quality though.
it's a marketing ploy used by gear manufacturers.. will try to find the linky
still my VOX AC30  is not Class A... rather A/B?  but it never stopped rockin'!

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Re: interesting...

Post by JazzBlaster » Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:16 am

mynameisjonas wrote: i think it's the little giants (5W) that are $150. the handsome devil (15W) seems to have just come out, and most places have it listed at $299.
:o haven't seen this one yet!
From a guitar amplification standpoint, neither class of operation is necessarily better, they are just different. You shouldn't get too hung up on the "class A" designation, because most of the push-pull amplifiers that are supposed to be class A aren't really class A at all, they are just cathode-biased, non-negative feedback class AB amplifiers. Operating class is not the reason for the tonal differences between these amplifiers.
The cathode biasing and lack of negative feedback is one of the main differences between the Vox clones and the Marshall/Fender style stuff. The typical Marshalls and Fenders used a fixed-bias output stage with negative feedback from the output back to the phase inverter input, while the Vox clones use a cathode-biased output stage and no global negative feedback.  In addition, the output tubes and preamp stage/phase inverter configurations contribute greatly to the tonal signature of these amplifiers.
read all about amp class here

An ac30 is the class A amp most class A amps are bassed from.

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Re: interesting...

Post by noirengineer » Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:18 am

I still don't get it,  but thanks for the links guys will bookmark and
re-read it later when i can focus more... it's 7:00 AM here..  coffee.

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Post by JazzBlaster » Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:20 am

The 15 watt seem to go for about $400, for about $100 more you could get a blues jr and have reverb as well. The 5w seems like a steal tho.

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Re: interesting...

Post by flatfiver » Sun Apr 06, 2008 8:54 pm

mynameisjonas wrote: it's class A alright, but i don't know about handwired...
As expected, you get the simple elegance and robust component specs that mark BHE's designs. From 1W, carbon-film resistors in the signal path to beefy, double sided pcb with 2 oz traces, 16 gauge, precision folded and welded chassis and mutli-ply, classically joined cabinetry, Blackheart is as serious about quality as they are about tone.
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Re: interesting...

Post by mjet » Mon Apr 07, 2008 3:15 am

northern_dirt wrote:
Anyways I like a company that lists links to other sites
that offer upgrades to their gear.. that to me is pretty
cool and very unpretentious..
Mojo has the hand-wired turret for $150 (see "before / after" photo below). I wonder what impact is has on the sound? It would be nice to see a side-by-side comparison.

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Re: interesting...

Post by StevenO » Mon Apr 07, 2008 11:14 am

noirengineer wrote: PS:  I'm asking this, cause I still don't know!

isn't class A argument, a farce?  I read somewhere about that
it means nothing.. correct me if I'm wrong, but say you had a
class B amp and you had the vol/gain only cranked at 3-5,
then it's operating at (for example) class A, but past that
threshold it becomes class B?  I wish I had that link to the article.

I'm not sure, but I don't think it relates much in terms of quality though.
it's a marketing ploy used by gear manufacturers.. will try to find the linky
still my VOX AC30  is not Class A... rather A/B?  but it never stopped rockin'!
Maybe this is it?
http://studentweb.eku.edu/justin_holton/tubes.html#i10

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Re: interesting...

Post by flatfiver » Mon Apr 07, 2008 3:55 pm

mjet wrote:
northern_dirt wrote:
Anyways I like a company that lists links to other sites
that offer upgrades to their gear.. that to me is pretty
cool and very unpretentious..
Mojo has the hand-wired turret for $150 (see "before / after" photo below). I wonder what impact is has on the sound? It would be nice to see a side-by-side comparison.

http://www.mojomusicalsupply.com/images/5550100.jpg
Damn do I wish people would stop mounting tube sockets directly to the main circuit board!  That Mojo setup looks real nice though.  Actually, aside from the tube socket thing, the stock PCB looks pretty nice, too.  The traces are nice and wide, the components have some girth to them, and you can tell it apart pretty easily from a VCR. ;)
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Re: interesting...

Post by bish » Mon Apr 07, 2008 5:51 pm

I have a Little Giant, and while I'm a relatively new player I really enjoy it alot and the sound is just heads and tails better then the crappy Marshall MG that I bought when I first got my guitar.

The price was just too enticing I don't have a ton of money but I wanted a tube amp to practice on. The head and cabinet feel very sturdy as well and it just feels like a lot of time went into making this a quality amp at a low price. I also like the look of it. When I bought mine the Little Giant Stack was $250.00, I noticed that a couple weeks ago that price has gone up to $299.00

Now one bad thing the first Little Giant Head I received had a crackle that sounded like crumpling paper that happened even when the volume was turned all the way down, but I got it replaced quickly and my second unit has been great, no extraneous sound at all.

I'm not a big fan of Sam Ash but they are the one place that has all of various Blackhearts amps listed with prices, just have to go to their website and do a search for Blackheart. www.samash.com

Overall I'm really happy with my purchase. And I like the fact that it can be modded.

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