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in my venues (800 seat, 1700 seat, outdoor amphitheater) a deluxe reverb is THE MOST requested backline guitar amplifier. and on some occasions, it's too loud and beams front rows in the face, overpowering my front fill speakers.
This is pretty helpful to know. I think I'm still pretty far out from a decision however, as now I'm exploring Marshall options. I didn't realize how much I liked they're clean tones. Thanks for the $.02!hexes wrote: ↑Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:36 pmin my venues (800 seat, 1700 seat, outdoor amphitheater) a deluxe reverb is THE MOST requested backline guitar amplifier. and on some occasions, it's too loud and beams front rows in the face, overpowering my front fill speakers.
i don't love the tone of them for my playing, but everyone uses them and sounds great.
seenoevil II wrote: ↑Wed Dec 02, 2020 7:15 pmThis is pretty helpful to know. I think I'm still pretty far out from a decision however, as now I'm exploring Marshall options. I didn't realize how much I liked they're clean tones. Thanks for the $.02!hexes wrote: ↑Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:36 pmin my venues (800 seat, 1700 seat, outdoor amphitheater) a deluxe reverb is THE MOST requested backline guitar amplifier. and on some occasions, it's too loud and beams front rows in the face, overpowering my front fill speakers.
i don't love the tone of them for my playing, but everyone uses them and sounds great.
just curious, what about the mercury magnetics do you like? to swap the PT alone is an extra $200. to do the pt, ot, and choke is over $450.Larsongs wrote: ↑Wed Dec 02, 2020 10:04 pmAnd it's completely Stock.. I know with better Tubes it will sound even better.. I'm not going to do any more than that.. Although it would sound even better with Mercury Magnetic Transformer, more correct vintage type Speaker etc... it doesn't need it as it already has a good sound...
They're priced right & they're bullet proof.. Available everywhere, Parts are easy to get & if it gets stolen it's fast & easy to replace..
I can't remember the last time I played my Marshall? I should just to see how I like it now....
Sorry for not being more clear.. I was thinking about doing the Merc Transformer, Choke, Speaker etc. But, after a good break in don't feel the need to.. Now it sounds good.. The only thing I might do is upgrade the Tubes at some point.. The 65 DRRI's are great Amps!hexes wrote: ↑Wed Dec 02, 2020 10:22 pmjust curious, what about the mercury magnetics do you like? to swap the PT alone is an extra $200. to do the pt, ot, and choke is over $450.Larsongs wrote: ↑Wed Dec 02, 2020 10:04 pmAnd it's completely Stock.. I know with better Tubes it will sound even better.. I'm not going to do any more than that.. Although it would sound even better with Mercury Magnetic Transformer, more correct vintage type Speaker etc... it doesn't need it as it already has a good sound...
They're priced right & they're bullet proof.. Available everywhere, Parts are easy to get & if it gets stolen it's fast & easy to replace..
I can't remember the last time I played my Marshall? I should just to see how I like it now....
A speaker upgrade to me makes the most sense, as you can kinda tailor those to your playing.
The DRRI is 6L6, right? I'd see if you can find some pin-compatible and electrically-compatible NOS Russian military tubes - I picked up some NOS Russian EL84s (and when they die I'm going to 6BQ1s) for my Grandmeister, and they not only sound basically the same with the same output -- pretty modern-styled amp, not that sensitive to tube changes, so that's a good thing -- but they run a good couple degrees cooler which helps with not burning my hand when the amp is all metal and tiny.Larsongs wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:26 amSorry for not being more clear.. I was thinking about doing the Merc Transformer, Choke, Speaker etc. But, after a good break in don't feel the need to.. Now it sounds good.. The only thing I might do is upgrade the Tubes at some point.. The 65 DRRI's are great Amps!
The DRRI is 6V6, not 6L6, but you can run 6L6s in them. However, you'll need a tech who knows what he's doing to rebias the amp for 6L6s, and maybe do a few extra things if necessary, like replace the filter caps and the tube rectifier with a solid state rectifier. Personally, I think it's too much trouble for little reward.HarlowTheFish wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:28 amThe DRRI is 6L6, right? I'd see if you can find some pin-compatible and electrically-compatible NOS Russian military tubes - I picked up some NOS Russian EL84s (and when they die I'm going to 6BQ1s) for my Grandmeister, and they not only sound basically the same with the same output -- pretty modern-styled amp, not that sensitive to tube changes, so that's a good thing -- but they run a good couple degrees cooler which helps with not burning my hand when the amp is all metal and tiny.Larsongs wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:26 amSorry for not being more clear.. I was thinking about doing the Merc Transformer, Choke, Speaker etc. But, after a good break in don't feel the need to.. Now it sounds good.. The only thing I might do is upgrade the Tubes at some point.. The 65 DRRI's are great Amps!
If forgetting to turn off your tube amp ages it like wine then my amp is a rarified vintage at this point.Larsongs wrote: ↑Wed Dec 02, 2020 10:04 pm
When I first got my 65 DRRI I didn't like its sound... I would play all my other Amps & avoid the DRRI... One time I accidentally left it on for about 15 hours or so by accident. I thought for sure I might have ruined something. Just the opposite.. I plugged a Guitar into it & it sounded better... I started playing it more.. After a good break in period it sounds quite good.. About. 100 hours or so. And it's completely Stock.. I know with better Tubes it will sound even better.. I'm not going to do any more than that..
seenoevil II wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 10:25 amIf forgetting to turn off your tube amp ages it like wine then my amp is a rarified vintage at this point.Larsongs wrote: ↑Wed Dec 02, 2020 10:04 pm
When I first got my 65 DRRI I didn't like its sound... I would play all my other Amps & avoid the DRRI... One time I accidentally left it on for about 15 hours or so by accident. I thought for sure I might have ruined something. Just the opposite.. I plugged a Guitar into it & it sounded better... I started playing it more.. After a good break in period it sounds quite good.. About. 100 hours or so. And it's completely Stock.. I know with better Tubes it will sound even better.. I'm not going to do any more than that..
LMAO right now on that one.. I resemble your remark... I don't know if it does or doesn't.. I've heard guys play hours of live recorded music with the Amp on to help break them in... Don't know if it works... But, I do know. Playing a new Amp for 100 hours or so seems to break them in.... Not all 100 hours at the same time though... LOL...oh, gotcha! full disclosure, I've been building amps for myself and have yet to make anything with mercury iron purely due to cost. Curious about opinions.Larsongs wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:26 am
Sorry for not being more clear.. I was thinking about doing the Merc Transformer, Choke, Speaker etc. But, after a good break in don't feel the need to.. Now it sounds good.. The only thing I might do is upgrade the Tubes at some point.. The 65 DRRI's are great Amps!
I wish I knew enough to give you an opinion myself, but having followed some amp builder forums and threads, overtime it seems that Mercury magnetics makes great products but they're overpriced compared to some of the other options, which can often sound better than the MM transformers depending on the amp. There's a reason why many amp builders, who are often known for sparing no expense, don't necessarily use MM transformers.hexes wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 2:18 pmoh, gotcha! full disclosure, I've been building amps for myself and have yet to make anything with mercury iron purely due to cost. Curious about opinions.Larsongs wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:26 am
Sorry for not being more clear.. I was thinking about doing the Merc Transformer, Choke, Speaker etc. But, after a good break in don't feel the need to.. Now it sounds good.. The only thing I might do is upgrade the Tubes at some point.. The 65 DRRI's are great Amps!