Louder than my Twin? Advice?

[Pumpkin]

Already on it, getting an extension cab as soon as I get paid, just to procure it while the one I want is at such a price.  Then I'm replacing my amp's speakers and getting the current one's reconed. 

you know the "EXT." jack on the back of the twin isnt for an "extension" speaker its for an external speaker and if you hook another cab up to it you WILL break your amp!!! the idea is to unhook the current speakers and hook up to new ones externally, but they  must be rated at 4ohms (if you specific amp is 4ohms that is)

Also,the ohms MUST be within the same range as the current ones (4ohms mine is ) and if you hook up any other ohms you will break your amp.

It doesnt make one bit of difference what watt speakers you use,the ohms being wrong will cost you soooooooooo much money in repairs dude!

not many people are aware of how dangerous ohms are to your amp, let alone know that it will kill it in an instant.

google it and learn man.

my RI twin reverb is 85 watts/4ohms and almost too loud, it has two 100watt jensens and its clean as fuck.

the speaker watts and tubes used determine how loud an amp can get before breaking up, since my amps 85watts into 200 watts of speakers it has no chance of sounding like shit because the speaker watts are over twice what the amp is putting out.

[1946dodge]

My Twin is from the early 80's. It has the master volume adn the pull switch.

It also has ElectroVoice SPeakers and will melt the paint off the walls.

It is a very loud amp.

So I would look into speakers.

After putting in a fresh set of tubes.

[Mighty Tom]

I agree about a late 70's Vibrasonic or better yet, a late 70's Fender Super Six

Jiminy Christmas... He's a guitarist, not a bodybuilder!

[EnosEmurf]

Already on it, getting an extension cab as soon as I get paid, just to procure it while the one I want is at such a price.  Then I'm replacing my amp's speakers and getting the current one's reconed. 

you know the "EXT." jack on the back of the twin isnt for an "extension" speaker its for an external speaker and if you hook another cab up to it you WILL break your amp!!! the idea is to unhook the current speakers and hook up to new ones externally, but they  must be rated at 4ohms (if you specific amp is 4ohms that is)

Also,the ohms MUST be within the same range as the current ones (4ohms mine is ) and if you hook up any other ohms you will break your amp.

It doesnt make one bit of difference what watt speakers you use,the ohms being wrong will cost you soooooooooo much money in repairs dude!

not many people are aware of how dangerous ohms are to your amp, let alone know that it will kill it in an instant.

google it and learn man.

my RI twin reverb is 85 watts/4ohms and almost too loud, it has two 100watt jensens and its clean as fuck.

the speaker watts and tubes used determine how loud an amp can get before breaking up, since my amps 85watts into 200 watts of speakers it has no chance of sounding like shit because the speaker watts are over twice what the amp is putting out.

Christ Pumpkin, glad you told me this!  But, shouldn't I be able to hook up a cabinet if the total ohms of the cabinet is 4?  If  I guess I'm going for speakers now then.

[EnosEmurf]

I think those are mid-to-late seventies Rola speakers. Are there any codes on it which include the number '285'?

005379
12T6 - 10
465-309

Looked it up, says they're Oxfords with peak power of 45 watts.

I really loved the sound of them before they started breaking up all ugly like.....

Really wish I had a clue about this shit. 

[aen]

I agree about a late 70's Vibrasonic or better yet, a late 70's Fender Super Six

Jiminy Christmas... He's a guitarist, not a bodybuilder!

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oh, haha

haha

HAHAHAHAHAHA MY GOD, I NEED IT

[Sauerkraut]

I think those are mid-to-late seventies Rola speakers. Are there any codes on it which include the number '285'?

005379
12T6 - 10
465-309

Looked it up, says they're Oxfords with peak power of 45 watts.

I really loved the sound of them before they started breaking up all ugly like.....

Really wish I had a clue about this shit. 

I also have '005379' on my '76 Rola speaker, wonder what that means.

[eggwheat]

I agree with the others..sounds like this amp needs a service if its not loud enough ie bad tubes.. How about just getting another and running in stereo?? Fender Super Six's are no louder..it's exactly the same amp section as a twin but with 6x10 speakers instead of 2x12. I used to run 2 super six's in stereo years ago. Or you could always lay down with your head near the speakers when practising 

[FireAarro]

Already on it, getting an extension cab as soon as I get paid, just to procure it while the one I want is at such a price.  Then I'm replacing my amp's speakers and getting the current one's reconed. 

you know the "EXT." jack on the back of the twin isnt for an "extension" speaker its for an external speaker and if you hook another cab up to it you WILL break your amp!!! the idea is to unhook the current speakers and hook up to new ones externally, but they  must be rated at 4ohms (if you specific amp is 4ohms that is)

Also,the ohms MUST be within the same range as the current ones (4ohms mine is ) and if you hook up any other ohms you will break your amp.

It doesnt make one bit of difference what watt speakers you use,the ohms being wrong will cost you soooooooooo much money in repairs dude!

not many people are aware of how dangerous ohms are to your amp, let alone know that it will kill it in an instant.

google it and learn man.

my RI twin reverb is 85 watts/4ohms and almost too loud, it has two 100watt jensens and its clean as fuck.

the speaker watts and tubes used determine how loud an amp can get before breaking up, since my amps 85watts into 200 watts of speakers it has no chance of sounding like shit because the speaker watts are over twice what the amp is putting out.

Christ Pumpkin, glad you told me this!  But, shouldn't I be able to hook up a cabinet if the total ohms of the cabinet is 4?  If  I guess I'm going for speakers now then.

Yes, the total impedance should be no less than 4 ohms but 4 ohms or above is fine.

[EnosEmurf]

I agree with the others..sounds like this amp needs a service if its not loud enough ie bad tubes.. How about just getting another and running in stereo?? Fender Super Six's are no louder..it's exactly the same amp section as a twin but with 6x10 speakers instead of 2x12. I used to run 2 super six's in stereo years ago. Or you could always lay down with your head near the speakers when practising 

That is my plan, but I gotta get this one sounding good before I spend the money on another one which I'll probably have to get serviced and shit.  I really am starting to think it's the speakers, cause I've had my tech look at it twice and he never said anything about the tubes being bad, otherwise he would've changed them.

[RumorsOFsurF]

I think those are mid-to-late seventies Rola speakers. Are there any codes on it which include the number '285'?

005379
12T6 - 10
465-309

Looked it up, says they're Oxfords with peak power of 45 watts.

I really loved the sound of them before they started breaking up all ugly like.....

Really wish I had a clue about this shit.   ???

You sure?  Oxfords look like this...



By the way, we're talking Super Sixes, so I gotta post this again.

[EnosEmurf]

Yes, I'm sure, that picture you posted is them, I didn't realize that  wasn't the same one, I was only looking at the label.

[Sauerkraut]

Yes, I'm sure, that picture you posted is them, I didn't realize that  wasn't the same one, I was only looking at the label.

aah, so the ones in your picture probably are Rola's then.

[Pumpkin]

Christ Pumpkin, glad you told me this!  But, shouldn't I be able to hook up a cabinet if the total ohms of the cabinet is 4?  If  I guess I'm going for speakers now then.

Yes, if you have a total load of 4 ohms its fine,it makes no difference how many speakers you have either.
I would get it serviced, tubes tested and replaced if needed then if its still not right i would replace the speakers.

but considering it has a place for two speakers an external cab is  really strange to have,just rip thos old ones out and put in the new ones.

Then we come to wiring speakers!
if its wired in series it will = a different total load than if its wired in parralell. so where you pull out one speaker,put the new one in exactly the same way.

i would have a read of these diagrams and actually undersatnd how it works before replacing speakers dude!



Considering how impotant this info is and it will either make your amp good or possibly fuck it right up I'm surprised no one here has told you this cause i've posted all this info before in amps forum so......................

An example: 8+8+8+8 is the ohms of each speaker and if its wired in series its a total load of 32ohms if its wired in parallel its a total load of 2 ohms,2ohms will destroy a twin reverb but 8 ohms will not.Although 8 ohms wont sound as good as the recommended 4 ohms.

i would buy two 8 ohms speakers for a direct replacement and youl have the normal 4 ohms =no damage/maximum sound!










to quote fireaarro:
Yes, the total impedance should be no less than 4 ohms but 4 ohms or above is fine.

true but it wont sound as good as 4ohms as mentioned above.

[mynameisjonas]

I agree about a late 70's Vibrasonic or better yet, a late 70's Fender Super Six

Jiminy Christmas... He's a guitarist, not a bodybuilder!

when i saw modest mouse this summer isaac played through two of those at the same time. i hear he's got 11 of them in total.