Giant speaker chosen! (PIX!)

[aen]

I'm looking to put a pair of bass speakers into my Twin, so I can fearlessly play bass LOUD.  Anybody know of a good pair of 12's or a radical 15 that would do well?

[Orang Goreng]

Vibrosonic it and get a JBL D130F, I'd say! I think Weber and Eminence make copies (I'm quite curious about the Eminence one in the '65 RI custom twin). The Weber is probably the cheaper choice.

[DB]

I don't know if this is in your price range ($130 USD), but I have one and have used it with my Twin head (Blackfaced) and is sounds great:

http://www.usspeaker.com/delta%20lite2512II-1.htm

DB

[aen]

Does your high end suffer?

[DB]

Does your high end suffer?

Yeah, a bit for guitar, but I have another cab with guitar speakers for that.  For both my VI, the Twin head with the 2x12 bass cab with these speakers is the shit.  It still sounds great for clean guitar, but if you want a bit of break up, then no.  But the Twin is not a great amp for break up anyway, is it?  Can always put a pedal up front for that.

DB

[aen]

I'm totally chanigng my sig... hang on...

[aen]

There we go.

Ok, does anbody have experience mismatching Ohms?  Cause I'm thinking of going with a single 15" in an extension cab, but it's 8 ohms, the twin puts out 4 if Im not mistaken...

[Jay]

That shouldn't be a problem for your amp (you wouldn't want to run a 4ohm speaker to an 8ohm out though) but it won't put out as much power as it would with a matched load.  At least that's what I've been led to believe.

[aen]

yeah, me too.  I worry anyway

[DB]

Aen, I also think you're correct about it being OK to run a Twin into 8 ohms.  It is designed for 4 ohms, and it is NOT a good idea to run it into 2 ohms.  I have two 8 ohm cabs and I use one or both and have not had any issues.  At 8 you won't have as much power as I understand it.

DB

[aen]

hmmm, mised out ont the 15"

but I found osmething that interested me quite a bit

http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl ... er=290-409

A speaker with 2 cones, hmmmmmmmm 48hz to 8khz?  Thats pretty much all the sound wave I can hear.......

I'm not going to be playing tons of bass through it, but it seems like these should be pretty naked loud speakers huh?

[Jay]

Those would probably reproduce too much high end for guitar.  You'd get something similar to that "run the fuzz pedal direct" sound.

[chrisjedijane]

That's what I was thinking - since they're meant to be used as full-range speakers you'll get a high-end extension that will be horrible for guitar amps...

[aen]

Yeah, that occured to me today.  Kind of strange that all the guitar speakers are rated up to only like 5k, but when I am EQing, I can hear differences up to like 20khz.  I suppose I should find out what the range is of the actual speakers in my twin, and look for something with more low end POWAR.


*edit*

Apparently the stock speakers in my twin go from 70hz to 7khz!  So not a whole lot of additional high end with these wierd speakers...

[del]

aen  and gang -

so... tell me if I have this right:

The plan is to add bass speakers to a Fender Twin and then use it as a bass and guitar amp.  This is b/c a bass's signal at high enough volumes can damage a regular guitar speaker.  The cost of adding a speaker designed for bass is that it might lose a little high end response, but that might be very minimal and ultimately controllable via tone knobs/eq-ing/pedals.

Correct?

If so, i have two questions:
1) could that same strong bass signal damage the amp at all?  In particular, could it reduce the lifespan of the tubes or otherwise damage them?  I don't think it will have any serious effects on the amp in general - I've played bass through a standard twin in the studio a few times at relatively low volumes without any troubles at all - but am interested in your thoughts.
2) what is the nature of the bassman combo's speakers (and that amp in general) that it works great for both guitar and bass?

Thanks!
del