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True.

Was just enjoying their Jolene/Ghost Riders In The Sky medley earlier

https://youtu.be/uS2c6cvMCx0

Nice, Steven I love the idea of being able to play music with a ladyfriend.

For sure! It's fun. We don't play too much music together, but I guess more than we would if we both didn't play instruments. We mostly just watch horror movies, go thrifting, and work on whatever projects are on the agenda. She's a lovely lady.

(Sorry for hijacking the thread)

That's adorable. Glad things are so good Steven!

Question. I've read conflicting reports about the loudness/ power of these amps.

Are these "solid state" watts or closer to "tube" watts?

So, my 120 watt SS amp is comparable to about 40 tube watts. And 30 SS watts is like 5 watt champ territory.

I've read where quilter means that 50 watts like the 101 means 50 watts and 200 means 200 (which would be insane).

seenoevil II wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 13, 2020 12:00 pm

Question. I've read conflicting reports about the loudness/ power of these amps.

Are these "solid state" watts or closer to "tube" watts?

So, my 120 watt SS amp is comparable to about 40 tube watts. And 30 SS watts is like 5 watt champ territory.

I've read where quilter means that 50 watts like the 101 means 50 watts and 200 means 200 (which would be insane).

Here's some info that might help assist with this. This weekend I was watching the video below of the band Part Chimp going over their gear. They have a reputation for being loud as fuck. They're signed to Mogwai's Rock Action label (another band known for using insane volume) if that tells you anything. One of their guitarists here mentions that he used to use a High Watt and now uses the Quilter 200 tone block because it weighs almost nothing and is still louder than god. There's another video of them playing live from this same session and it seems like he's pretty damn loud. As someone who always worries about volume and plays in a loud af band myself I've been wanting to try one of these high volume Quilter's for a while and seeing this kinda settled it for me. Now it's just a matter of selling some gear to pay for it and seeing if all that's true.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocf1BfSfhYM

seenoevil II wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 13, 2020 12:00 pm

Question. I've read conflicting reports about the loudness/ power of these amps.

Are these "solid state" watts or closer to "tube" watts?

So, my 120 watt SS amp is comparable to about 40 tube watts. And 30 SS watts is like 5 watt champ territory.

I've read where quilter means that 50 watts like the 101 means 50 watts and 200 means 200 (which would be insane).

I don't have technical data to back it up, but subjectively this thing is loud AF. I've played solid state 50ish watt stuff before (notably the old Princeton Chorus) that wasn't anywhere near this loud (notably with half the speakers). I'm a little bit scared of the 200 watt daddies.

I've got the 101 reverb, what's uncanny about it is it feels just like playing a 50 watt BF fender, plus having a musical limiter and accurate power scaling. I thought about a 200 watt Quilter but realized that I'd have to run it with at least two if not four speakers. I use a 12" Jensen Tornado Neo speaker in a TV front Fender cabinet clone - the whole setup with the amp weighs 19 lbs and it is loud.

Exactly what I needed to know. Thanks

It will be interesting to see if you Quilter's will still be playing them in 5 years.. 3 or even 2....

Larsongs wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 15, 2020 10:25 am

It will be interesting to see if you Quilter's will still be playing them in 5 years.. 3 or even 2....

Very true. Quilter will probably fare better than other non-tube amps (Especially modeling gear) but yeah, so far the resale market has pretty much proven that tubes remain desirable and the other stuff usually doesn't.

SAVEStheDAY wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:25 pm

Larsongs wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 15, 2020 10:25 am

It will be interesting to see if you Quilter's will still be playing them in 5 years.. 3 or even 2....

Very true. Quilter will probably fare better than other non-tube amps (Especially modeling gear) but yeah, so far the resale market has pretty much proven that tubes remain desirable and the other stuff usually doesn't.

Quilter has a strong/cult following. They keep better resale value than a lot of other solid state amps. Not as desirable as a Roland JC-120 at this point, but certainly leagues ahead of Fender or Kustom or whatever other solid state amp.

I was just playing mine, and I definitely still like it. But I've also not been able to bring myself to sell off my AC 10C1, so...

peterherman wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:29 pm

Quilter has a strong/cult following. They keep better resale value than a lot of other solid state amps. Not as desirable as a Roland JC-120 at this point, but certainly leagues ahead of Fender or Kustom or whatever other solid state amp.

I was just playing mine, and I definitely still like it. But I've also not been able to bring myself to sell off my AC 10C1, so...

I get that, and I'm sure it's a decent amp. Sometimes you'll get a solid state amp that breaks through and remains popular, but mostly they are disposable once the next best thing comes out. Regardless of how rabid the fan base is a new and improved model 2.0 with more betterness will instantly make a ton of people ditch model 1.0. That doesn't really happen with tube amps, where the original models tend to hold their value, or even become more desirable.

What you described did happen with tube amps for a long while, hence the progression from tweed to brown, black, silver etc. It's only in the long backward gaze of vintage gear fetishism that all have become equally valid flavors.

That's already happened with quilter as they add features and move production to China (which would be okish with of the prices didn't stay the same).

I get and also don't get vintage amps. In one hand, they are easy to service and repair and often cost about the same price as modern reissues. In the other, at a certain point, they're simply a compilation of parts that get replaced. So, what are you really buying, the chassis, the pine&tolex box?

In any case, I'm not thinking about resale. I'll gladly buy model 1.0 when it's cheaper. Then use it to gig.

I did watch a blind shootout between a quilter, DRRI, and modeler, and while the quilter sounded great, there was a certain smoothness in the 2-500hz range the DRRI that the other 2 lacked.