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Re: Gassing For A Classic Fender Type Amp

Post by Maggieo » Fri Oct 02, 2020 2:34 pm

Milkman Amps makes what you want, almost exactly. But Mike is very proud of his amps. $$$$$
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Re: Gassing For A Classic Fender Type Amp

Post by Shadoweclipse13 » Sun Oct 04, 2020 9:30 pm

sookwinder wrote:
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You know me, Maggie. I've always lusted for the Secret Agent. In that spirit, I think a DIY would be awesome. I could try to get it similar. I was actually considering making an amp with a standalone spring reverb like an old Fender reverb unit, but built into the amp.
You could always build your own reverb unit (as well).
http://www.offsetguitars.com/forums/vie ... hp?t=83932
THAT is a really fun idea. I don't know how crowded (for the sake of spacing and for the sake of not overheating either unit) it would be, but having a standalone Reverb unit in a combo would be friggin' amazing. I only perused your build thread quickly, but that is a killer build Sook!!!

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Or buy a (FET based) surfy bear reverb unit which is shockingly close to stand alone tube reverb unit (from my experince with a '63 unit, a RI reverb unit, Gomez G-Spring unit und Lil Dawg reverb unit which are all 6G15 circuit)

https://www.surfyindustries.com/
That is something else I would happily consider. I've definitely got some more research to do for my own preferences 8)

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Milkman Amps makes what you want, almost exactly. But Mike is very proud of his amps. $$$$$
That's a lot of money, but damn that thing is amazing. And with that "Milk Century Modern" cabinet option :? :? I feel like custom cabinet finishes should be a free option (or at least cheaper) for an amp that starts at $2.5K... The first demo on the page, when he engaged the tremolo, I almost needed a change of pants. That tremolo sounded like it could've been RIGHT out of a 1960's spy film soundtrack...
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Re: Gassing For A Classic Fender Type Amp

Post by Maggieo » Mon Oct 05, 2020 2:31 pm

Mike's amps are just amazing. Seriously, you nailed the sound of that demo.
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Re: Gassing For A Classic Fender Type Amp

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Maggieo wrote:
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Mike's amps are just amazing. Seriously, you nailed the sound of that demo.
That sound is just :? :? :? I just don't know that I want to spend $3K on an amp. I'm not a good enough player to justify $3K.

Also, after that demo (and that 3rd part especially) I really think I need a hollowbody/archtop for some old-school tremolo action.
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Re: Gassing For A Classic Fender Type Amp

Post by Larsongs » Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:16 pm

Have you tried out a new 65 PRRI yet? I bet you'll put these other Amps & Build ideas to rest if you do... Amazing little Amps out of the box for not crazy money... Plug & Play!

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Re: Gassing For A Classic Fender Type Amp

Post by Shadoweclipse13 » Fri Oct 09, 2020 1:48 am

Larsongs wrote:
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Have you tried out a new 65 PRRI yet? I bet you'll put these other Amps & Build ideas to rest if you do... Amazing little Amps out of the box for not crazy money... Plug & Play!
I haven't yet. As has been pointed out by one or two people, I'm a little leary of amps with PCB-mounted guts for the sake (and expense) of repair, though my Delta Blues and Origin 20 probably are both the same. I do really want to try one, and the lesser amount of money for one is very attractive. Having never played vintage models, I probably will fall in love with one.

I found this a couple weeks ago and didn't realize right away that he's comparing the reissues, not reissues vs vintage models, or even vintage models to different years of the vintage models. I like the way the video very clearly shows which one is being played and is very thorough in different playing styles, etc. I haven't finished the whole thing, but the '64 and '62 sound the best to me.
The 4 Fender Princeton Reissues Comparison - 62 vs 64 vs 65 vs 68
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Re: Gassing For A Classic Fender Type Amp

Post by nanamour » Fri Oct 09, 2020 3:47 am

Shadoweclipse13 wrote:
Fri Oct 09, 2020 1:48 am
I haven't yet. As has been pointed out by one or two people, I'm a little leary of amps with PCB-mounted guts for the sake (and expense) of repair, though my Delta Blues and Origin 20 probably are both the same. I do really want to try one, and the lesser amount of money for one is very attractive. Having never played vintage models, I probably will fall in love with one.

I found this a couple weeks ago and didn't realize right away that he's comparing the reissues, not reissues vs vintage models, or even vintage models to different years of the vintage models. I like the way the video very clearly shows which one is being played and is very thorough in different playing styles, etc. I haven't finished the whole thing, but the '64 and '62 sound the best to me.
The 4 Fender Princeton Reissues Comparison - 62 vs 64 vs 65 vs 68
The '62 and '64 reissues in the above video are both 'handwired' on turret board (as you would find in a vintage example), so no PCB failures to worry about there. If you like the sound and can swing the extra expense, they might be good options for you; mind, however, that both are priced similarly to what a vintage Brownface or Silverface Princeton would set you back though.

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Re: Gassing For A Classic Fender Type Amp

Post by Maggieo » Fri Oct 09, 2020 9:51 am

Larsongs wrote:
Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:16 pm
Have you tried out a new 65 PRRI yet? I bet you'll put these other Amps & Build ideas to rest if you do... Amazing little Amps out of the box for not crazy money... Plug & Play!
Seconded. And the FSRs can be pretty cool...

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Re: Gassing For A Classic Fender Type Amp

Post by Shadoweclipse13 » Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:04 am

Maggieo wrote:
Fri Oct 09, 2020 9:51 am
Larsongs wrote:
Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:16 pm
Have you tried out a new 65 PRRI yet? I bet you'll put these other Amps & Build ideas to rest if you do... Amazing little Amps out of the box for not crazy money... Plug & Play!
Seconded. And the FSRs can be pretty cool...

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I love it! But FSR? I don't think I know that abbreviation...
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Re: Gassing For A Classic Fender Type Amp

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Shadoweclipse13 wrote:
Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:04 am
Maggieo wrote:
Fri Oct 09, 2020 9:51 am
Larsongs wrote:
Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:16 pm
Have you tried out a new 65 PRRI yet? I bet you'll put these other Amps & Build ideas to rest if you do... Amazing little Amps out of the box for not crazy money... Plug & Play!
Seconded. And the FSRs can be pretty cool...

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Syd The Paisley Tele And A Madcap Amp, September 21, 2014 by Maggie Osterberg, on Flickr
I love it! But FSR? I don't think I know that abbreviation...
FSR is Fender Special Run or Factory Special Run depending on who you ask.
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Post by Maggieo » Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:32 am

Factory Special Run- in this case it's the cosmetics.
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Re: Gassing For A Classic Fender Type Amp

Post by andy_tchp » Sat Oct 10, 2020 5:11 pm

IIRC those (paisley amps) got an upgraded alnico speaker too. Very cool things.
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Re: Gassing For A Classic Fender Type Amp

Post by Larsongs » Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:14 pm

Shadoweclipse13 wrote:
Fri Oct 09, 2020 1:48 am
Larsongs wrote:
Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:16 pm
Have you tried out a new 65 PRRI yet? I bet you'll put these other Amps & Build ideas to rest if you do... Amazing little Amps out of the box for not crazy money... Plug & Play!
I haven't yet. As has been pointed out by one or two people, I'm a little leary of amps with PCB-mounted guts for the sake (and expense) of repair, though my Delta Blues and Origin 20 probably are both the same. I do really want to try one, and the lesser amount of money for one is very attractive. Having never played vintage models, I probably will fall in love with one.

I found this a couple weeks ago and didn't realize right away that he's comparing the reissues, not reissues vs vintage models, or even vintage models to different years of the vintage models. I like the way the video very clearly shows which one is being played and is very thorough in different playing styles, etc. I haven't finished the whole thing, but the '64 and '62 sound the best to me.
The 4 Fender Princeton Reissues Comparison - 62 vs 64 vs 65 vs 68
There are these 4 RI Princeton's & several other Factory Special Run versions as well.. Several with different Speakers & Cabinet finishes. The 62 & 64 are highly upgraded as mentioned & are Custom Shop quality. Great but Pricey... The 65 is traditional Spec, the 68 is a modern re-interpretation. Both are excellent Amps & are bulletproof... As well as bargain Priced..

I've had my 65 PRRI for 8-9 years.. It's my most used Amp & play it almost every day, travel & play out with it.. Sounds great, no issues... Unlike my 65 DRRI & Twin Reverb.. Never had a PCB issue with any of them.. (Or any of my other Amps) The Reverb issue in the Twin, which I've had about 15 years, was the Tank. Cheap & easy fix. I had a Tube issue in the 65 DRRI, which I've had for about 10 years, & was repaired under Warranty the first year I had it.....

IMO a 65 or 68 PRRI & or DRRI should be in every Guitar Players tool box.. Bulletproof, hard working, great sounding, versatile reasonably Priced Amps.. Always ready to rumble..

Start with a great Foundation Amp. From there you can build Gucci Amps, buy Boutique or Vintage..

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Re: Gassing For A Classic Fender Type Amp

Post by Shadoweclipse13 » Sun Oct 11, 2020 8:08 pm

nanamour wrote:
Fri Oct 09, 2020 3:47 am
The '62 and '64 reissues in the above video are both 'handwired' on turret board (as you would find in a vintage example), so no PCB failures to worry about there. If you like the sound and can swing the extra expense, they might be good options for you; mind, however, that both are priced similarly to what a vintage Brownface or Silverface Princeton would set you back though.
blunderbuss wrote:
Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:52 am
FSR is Fender Special Run or Factory Special Run depending on who you ask.
Maggieo wrote:
Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:32 am
Factory Special Run- in this case it's the cosmetics.
That makes sense. I kinda figured it was the cosmetics in your case Maggie ;) Pink isn't my thing, but that thing is REALLY cool. I was looking around a found a few PR's that might be FSR (limited editions anyways) that are pretty sweet:

Musician's Friend - 65 Princeton Reverb Bordeaux Reserve
Musician's Friend - 65 Princeton Reverb Blonde (sexy as hell)
Sweetwater - 65 Princeton Reverb Lacquered Tweed
Chicago Music Exchange - 65 Princeton Reverb British Sable
Chicago Music Exchange - 68 Princeton Reverb Teal
World Music Supply - 65 Princeton Reverb Western ( :k :k )

Larsongs wrote:
Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:14 pm
There are these 4 RI Princeton's & several other Factory Special Run versions as well.. Several with different Speakers & Cabinet finishes. The 62 & 64 are highly upgraded as mentioned & are Custom Shop quality. Great but Pricey... The 65 is traditional Spec, the 68 is a modern re-interpretation. Both are excellent Amps & are bulletproof... As well as bargain Priced..

I've had my 65 PRRI for 8-9 years.. It's my most used Amp & play it almost every day, travel & play out with it.. Sounds great, no issues... Unlike my 65 DRRI & Twin Reverb.. Never had a PCB issue with any of them.. (Or any of my other Amps) The Reverb issue in the Twin, which I've had about 15 years, was the Tank. Cheap & easy fix. I had a Tube issue in the 65 DRRI, which I've had for about 10 years, & was repaired under Warranty the first year I had it.....

IMO a 65 or 68 PRRI & or DRRI should be in every Guitar Players tool box.. Bulletproof, hard working, great sounding, versatile reasonably Priced Amps.. Always ready to rumble..

Start with a great Foundation Amp. From there you can build Gucci Amps, buy Boutique or Vintage..
I like the idea of a RI Princeton if I like the tone. I am big on buying something and sticking with it though. I try to make sure I get the gear that I'll want to keep forever, and try not to sell things on. It happens, but I'd rather get something and play. And that could definitely be a Fender reissue. The money is right, and if I've got no issues with it, then that's fantastic. I'm certainly not against getting a reissue Fender. I'm glad to know that they are reliable.

I don't think I'd get either the '62 or the '64 from Fender. If I was gonna drop over $2K on an amp, I'd just go straight for the Milkman, you know? I'm probably leaning towards the '65 over the '68, but that the '68 is a modern reinterpretation is very interesting. What's different about the new '68 compared to the old circuits?

EDIT: I've been looking through some of the FSR reissues and was wondering what the consensus on a PR with a 10" speaker vs a 12" speaker is. A couple of the FSR's have a 12" speaker and the ad literature makes it sound like "the mod that everyone just had to have", which sounds like bullshit to me.
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Re: Gassing For A Classic Fender Type Amp

Post by Unicorn Warrior » Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:06 pm

I can’t answer your questions on the differences between the 65 and 68, but I just came to say that RI fenders are very reliable amps.

A handful of guys in my music circle have basically used Fender RI amps exclusively and all of them have been bullet proof for what seems to be close to a decade now of having known them. I’ve only owned a RI Super Reverb and that was for about a year, but I’ll not think twice if Fender tone is what I was after and wanted something reliable. The RI amps sound good, work, and are affordable.

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