what is my 4x12 now with even more unknown fane speaker'd cabs

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what is my 4x12 now with even more unknown fane speaker'd cabs

Post by s_mcsleazy » Sun Jun 20, 2021 5:28 pm

ok, so last year i got a great 4x12. i love the thing..... but i dunno what the fuck it is or who made it. i've not got that many photo's of it on my hard drive BUT here's some i do have.

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so here's what i know about it.

it's got fane PA speakers in it (could have been changed)
it's got a sealed back with 2 horizontal input jacks (one is missing)
black grille with white piping
4 holes in the center of the grille from a possible square/rectangular logo
speakers mounted in the same way as old HH amps mounted their speakers BUT not an HH amp.
square-ish handles
very heavy.

here's what i don't think it is based on pictures.

laney supergroup cab
HH 4x12 cab
musicman 4x12 (but it does have a few similar elements)
simm watts/hiwatt/sound city
carlsbro 4x12
garnet (handles are wrong)
marshall

any ideas?
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Re: what is my 4x12?

Post by whitewatersky » Sun Jun 20, 2021 5:51 pm

there’s a pic of a FANE box in here…
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=119762

… ahhhh, it Doesn’t look like yours tho so … thank me later for this useless info

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Re: what is my 4x12?

Post by s_mcsleazy » Sun Jun 20, 2021 5:58 pm

whitewatersky wrote:
Sun Jun 20, 2021 5:51 pm
there’s a pic of a FANE box in here…
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=119762

… ahhhh, it Doesn’t look like yours tho so … thank me later for this useless info
Yeah it was that photo that made me start googling again.
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Re: what is my 4x12?

Post by zhivago » Sun Jun 20, 2021 10:36 pm

A Sound City, maybe?
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Re: what is my 4x12?

Post by tune_link » Mon Jun 21, 2021 5:08 am

Possibly 80 or 90s era Ampeg cab. The white trim around the edge looks like some I've seen. I have a 70s era cab that went to my old V4 and it is about this size and also extremely heavy like you described the one in the photo. This is a bass cab but their guitar cabs also looked like this in that era:


https://reverb.com/item/25411124-c4566- ... vt-410?bk=

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Re: what is my 4x12?

Post by MechaBulletBill » Mon Jun 21, 2021 5:24 am

roost? sovtek?

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Re: what is my 4x12?

Post by s_mcsleazy » Mon Jun 21, 2021 6:01 am

zhivago wrote:
Sun Jun 20, 2021 10:36 pm
A Sound City, maybe?
i looked at a lot of sound city cabs and non seem to match up
MechaBulletBill wrote:
Mon Jun 21, 2021 5:24 am
roost? sovtek?
i thought roost at some point but the frame of the roost cabs is a little thicker. the handles kinda match though.

i don't think i've ever seen a sovtek 4x12, not saying they don't exist. also the frame of the sovtek cabs i have seen seem to be thicker.
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Mon Jun 21, 2021 5:08 am
Possibly 80 or 90s era Ampeg cab. The white trim around the edge looks like some I've seen. I have a 70s era cab that went to my old V4 and it is about this size and also extremely heavy like you described the one in the photo. This is a bass cab but their guitar cabs also looked like this in that era:


https://reverb.com/item/25411124-c4566- ... vt-410?bk=
possibly. were the guitar cabs as deep as the bass cabs? also one thing that's throwing me off the ampeg thing is my cab doesn't have any cups on the top for the head to sit.
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Re: what is my 4x12?

Post by tune_link » Mon Jun 21, 2021 6:20 am

s_mcsleazy wrote:
Mon Jun 21, 2021 6:01 am
zhivago wrote:
Sun Jun 20, 2021 10:36 pm
A Sound City, maybe?
i looked at a lot of sound city cabs and non seem to match up
MechaBulletBill wrote:
Mon Jun 21, 2021 5:24 am
roost? sovtek?
i thought roost at some point but the frame of the roost cabs is a little thicker. the handles kinda match though.

i don't think i've ever seen a sovtek 4x12, not saying they don't exist. also the frame of the sovtek cabs i have seen seem to be thicker.
tune_link wrote:
Mon Jun 21, 2021 5:08 am
Possibly 80 or 90s era Ampeg cab. The white trim around the edge looks like some I've seen. I have a 70s era cab that went to my old V4 and it is about this size and also extremely heavy like you described the one in the photo. This is a bass cab but their guitar cabs also looked like this in that era:


https://reverb.com/item/25411124-c4566- ... vt-410?bk=
possibly. were the guitar cabs as deep as the bass cabs? also one thing that's throwing me off the ampeg thing is my cab doesn't have any cups on the top for the head to sit.

Oh yeah the cups may be the thing that indicates it isn't Ampeg. My 70s cab has the cups and most of the Ampeg ones seem to have them at least on a side of the cab somewhere so that you can turn it one way to use them or flip it slightly if you don't want to.

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Re: what is my 4x12?

Post by MechaBulletBill » Mon Jun 21, 2021 7:37 am

i don't think i've ever seen a sovtek 4x12, not saying they don't exist. also the frame of the sovtek cabs i have seen seem to be thicker.
i'm pretty sure they're out there (from the original MIG period in the 90s i think?)

could be that dallas-arbiter (or whoever) would commission cabs from whomever could knock them up, badge them however many different ways (sound city, simms-watts, etc.), so that there is v little consistency.

have you checked speaker codes and such? i know celestions are fairly easy to pin down coz they kept such consistent track of things.

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Re: what is my 4x12?

Post by s_mcsleazy » Mon Jun 21, 2021 7:50 am

MechaBulletBill wrote:
Mon Jun 21, 2021 7:37 am
i don't think i've ever seen a sovtek 4x12, not saying they don't exist. also the frame of the sovtek cabs i have seen seem to be thicker.
i'm pretty sure they're out there (from the original MIG period in the 90s i think?)

could be that dallas-arbiter (or whoever) would commission cabs from whomever could knock them up, badge them however many different ways (sound city, simms-watts, etc.), so that there is v little consistency.

have you checked speaker codes and such? i know celestions are fairly easy to pin down coz they kept such consistent track of things.
yeah. i know they're old fane heavy duty (i think that's what they called their PA speakers)

i think it could be one of the dallas arbiter brands but there's a few things throwing me off. mainly the tolex job.
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Re: what is my 4x12?

Post by s_mcsleazy » Sat Jun 26, 2021 4:31 pm

OKAY. so reverb showed me this listing AND..... while not everything's exact (frame of the cab still looks to big and the handles are wrong) the rest looks similar.
https://reverb.com/uk/item/35752807-vin ... wUQAvD_BwE

EDIT:

i also found a univox 4x12 that looks really similar but i can't see any that have pictures of the handles or the back.
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Re: what is my 4x12?

Post by JSett » Sun Jun 27, 2021 1:27 am

zhivago wrote:
Sun Jun 20, 2021 10:36 pm
A Sound City, maybe?
I had a cab that looked JUST like that about 12 years ago. I got it along with a (very obscure UK-made) Circle Sound head.

This is the only picture I can find of it, and you can only see a slither...

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Re: what is my 4x12?

Post by s_mcsleazy » Sun Jun 27, 2021 5:59 am

johnnysomersett wrote:
Sun Jun 27, 2021 1:27 am
zhivago wrote:
Sun Jun 20, 2021 10:36 pm
A Sound City, maybe?
I had a cab that looked JUST like that about 12 years ago. I got it along with a (very obscure UK-made) Circle Sound head.

This is the only picture I can find of it, and you can only see a slither...

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tolex looks right, frame is right size... NOW WE HAVE 2 UNKNOWN CABS
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Re: what is my 4x12?

Post by JSett » Sun Jun 27, 2021 6:30 am

I remembered what it was!

It's an SW (Simms-Watts) Amplification cab. Fane loaded

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Re: what is my 4x12?

Post by Pacafeliz » Sun Jun 27, 2021 8:27 am

s_mcsleazy wrote:
Sun Jun 27, 2021 5:59 am
johnnysomersett wrote:
Sun Jun 27, 2021 1:27 am
zhivago wrote:
Sun Jun 20, 2021 10:36 pm
A Sound City, maybe?
I had a cab that looked JUST like that about 12 years ago. I got it along with a (very obscure UK-made) Circle Sound head.

This is the only picture I can find of it, and you can only see a slither...

Image
tolex looks right, frame is right size... NOW WE HAVE 2 UNKNOWN CABS
I have 2 old solid state Simms Watts heads that look damn similar to that thing! 🤔
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