Are 90s DMM reissues really selling for $600+?!

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Are 90s DMM reissues really selling for $600+?!

Post by Mechanical Birds » Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:46 pm

:fp: :fp: :fp:

When did this happen? Sold one for like $175 a year ago

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Re: Are 90s DMM reissues really selling for $600+?!

Post by JSett » Fri Dec 23, 2022 11:37 pm

People are definitely listing them at that. They're not selling much though
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Re: Are 90s DMM reissues really selling for $600+?!

Post by Mechanical Birds » Sat Dec 24, 2022 12:40 am

Universally listed at $600+ so I just figured and didn’t actually check that. Just kinda blows my mind because I thought a consensus had formed around the newer ones being better

People love the “vintage” though I guess

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Re: Are 90s DMM reissues really selling for $600+?!

Post by sal paradise » Sat Dec 24, 2022 1:34 am

Mechanical Birds wrote:
Sat Dec 24, 2022 12:40 am

People love the “vintage” though I guess
The democratisation of of selling things outside of owning a shop, combined with the paradigm shift to retro/vintage as cool in the early 00s, really has led to lots of people thinking “old = valuable”.
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Re: Are 90s DMM reissues really selling for $600+?!

Post by Mechanical Birds » Sat Dec 24, 2022 1:56 am

Definitely. I know it’s preaching to the choir here but every dipshit with a thing that has even a whiff of value attached to it being able to instantly check eBay for a price has really fucked things up

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Re: Are 90s DMM reissues really selling for $600+?!

Post by sal paradise » Sat Dec 24, 2022 4:33 am

Mechanical Birds wrote:
Sat Dec 24, 2022 1:56 am
Definitely. I know it’s preaching to the choir here but every dipshit with a thing that has even a whiff of value attached to it being able to instantly check eBay for a price has really fucked things up
It can be frustrating, sure. But us addicts still find enough bargains to make the search fun. And I have to admit I’ve done pretty well out of flipping things for a fair price & not being out of pocket.
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Re: Are 90s DMM reissues really selling for $600+?!

Post by Zork » Sat Dec 24, 2022 3:52 pm

Mechanical Birds wrote:
Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:46 pm
:fp: :fp: :fp:

When did this happen? Sold one for like $175 a year ago
Dude or dudette who bought it from you must have been super happy. Even last year 175$ was a steal.

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Re: Are 90s DMM reissues really selling for $600+?!

Post by ziess » Mon Dec 26, 2022 3:43 am

To be fair they are great. I’ve got a reissue and an original ‘78. The reissue is better!

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Re: Are 90s DMM reissues really selling for $600+?!

Post by CorporateDisguise » Mon Dec 26, 2022 5:28 am

Luckily, the Nano Memory Man is really close. The biggest difference being you have control over the speed of the modulation, which on the OGs I believe was tied directly to the delay time and chorus vibrato switch. The Nano is not quite as sexy though….

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Re: Are 90s DMM reissues really selling for $600+?!

Post by sal paradise » Mon Dec 26, 2022 5:40 am

CorporateDisguise wrote:
Mon Dec 26, 2022 5:28 am
Luckily, the Nano Memory Man is really close. The biggest difference being you have control over the speed of the modulation, which on the OGs I believe was tied directly to the delay time and chorus vibrato switch. The Nano is not quite as sexy though….
Yeah the nano is ugly. But do they sound close? I’d been eyeing up the newer big box reisssue but online reviews weren’t all that.
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Re: Are 90s DMM reissues really selling for $600+?!

Post by fuzzjunkie » Mon Dec 26, 2022 11:12 am

Mechanical Birds wrote:
Sat Dec 24, 2022 12:40 am
Universally listed at $600+ so I just figured and didn’t actually check that. Just kinda blows my mind because I thought a consensus had formed around the newer ones being better

People love the “vintage” though I guess
I haven’t paid much attention to the latest versions, but up until 2015 at least, the consensus I remember is that the ‘90s reissue was better. Maybe that’s changed, but I haven’t heard of it.

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Re: Are 90s DMM reissues really selling for $600+?!

Post by jorri » Mon Dec 26, 2022 6:20 pm

sal paradise wrote:
Mon Dec 26, 2022 5:40 am
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Mon Dec 26, 2022 5:28 am
Luckily, the Nano Memory Man is really close. The biggest difference being you have control over the speed of the modulation, which on the OGs I believe was tied directly to the delay time and chorus vibrato switch. The Nano is not quite as sexy though….
Think the subjective consensus was it being better than the XO and as for the 90s one, maybe its a dark vs bright subjective change. As for actual max delay time that was my main reason to not go for one -some units had 400 and some had 800 on the XO but the spec said 550, but no idea on the nano or previous versions.

Yeah the nano is ugly. But do they sound close? I’d been eyeing up the newer big box reisssue but online reviews weren’t all that.

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Re: Are 90s DMM reissues really selling for $600+?!

Post by CorporateDisguise » Tue Dec 27, 2022 5:17 am

To me, the Nano is the closest they’ve come to the 90s big box. The repeats have the proper filtering and timbre unlike the TT units. It also has great head room unlike the TT. It definitely has more delay time than the big box and other reissue units, but if you stay within the normal 400ish ms it stays clean. Above that it starts to get some of the bucket loss noise, which is also pretty cool.

When I got the nano, the first strum literally gave me goose bumps. I’d been looking for a MM, as I had sold my big box right before the discontinued them, and never got around to getting another, and the prices just kept going up. I barely even look at other delay pedals now. ::)

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Re: Are 90s DMM reissues really selling for $600+?!

Post by hulakatt » Fri Dec 30, 2022 5:22 pm

I had one in the early 00's and sold it kinda quickly. A few years ago, I did pick up a DBA Echo Dream 2 which did everything I liked from the DMM but better.
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Re: Are 90s DMM reissues really selling for $600+?!

Post by Fac 50 » Sat Dec 31, 2022 7:14 am

CorporateDisguise wrote:
Tue Dec 27, 2022 5:17 am
To me, the Nano is the closest they’ve come to the 90s big box. The repeats have the proper filtering and timbre unlike the TT units. It also has great head room unlike the TT. It definitely has more delay time than the big box and other reissue units, but if you stay within the normal 400ish ms it stays clean. Above that it starts to get some of the bucket loss noise, which is also pretty cool.

When I got the nano, the first strum literally gave me goose bumps. I’d been looking for a MM, as I had sold my big box right before the discontinued them, and never got around to getting another, and the prices just kept going up. I barely even look at other delay pedals now. ::)
This is interesting. I have been thinking about replacing my standard 2010s reissue (are they called the XO version?) to get a bit more pedalboard space. i absolutely love the thing, even if it's not one of the cool ones. It sounds like the nano might give a bit more delay time, which is cool. If it sounds a bit more like the old ones that's even better. But absolutely crucial for me is - how does the level control behave? I use mine essentially as a delay + solo boost, so I have the boost set around 12 o'clock or maybe a touch more. 11 o'clock seems to be unity volume on mine. What's great about it is that it just adds a touch of gain, but not too much and doesn't change the sound much - just louder.

Does the nano work like this and where is unity volume roughly? Also how about the self-oscillation - is that pretty much the same as other models? I love setting it so that it kind of 'hovers' without totally running away.

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