4 Pickup Jagmasterblaster

Post by **Jay** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 8:39 am

How about a jazzmaster with 4 jag pickups where the upper switch brings the extra two into the circuit but reverse wound for hum cancelling? The 3 way switch would work as usual. Would this even work?

Post by **fullerplast** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 9:01 am

COOL!

I like that. You get the benefit of single coil sound or HB, like a coil split... but for both pickups.

It should work. I'd have to draw it out though.

But right now I have to go back into the rocketship...

Post by **mezcalhead** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 9:14 am

Isn't that essentially a Jazzblaster with coil-splitting on the humbuckers?

Post by **Jay** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 9:18 am

mezcalhead wrote: Isn't that essentially a Jazzblaster with coil-splitting on the humbuckers?

I guess. From my experience though, coil splitting doesn't exactly sound the same as a regular single coil pickup. I guess it should theoretically. Maybe I can try wiring my blaster project like this but reverse it so that the switch splits the coils. I think the re-issue "wide-range" pickups are with a four conducters.

nealescott · Post by **nealescott** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 9:44 am

yeah they are, well at least the mex ones are, i don't think the japanese ones are though,

i have a coil split WRHP, via a push pull pot on the tone control, on my bigsby tele custom.

Post by **fullerplast** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 10:21 am

It seems like it will work, but you will need two switches up top, one for each "secondary coil". The reason being is that if both of them are routed from the toggle to the single switch, they would short at the switch and all be either on or off. So depending on the toggle position, you would actually have 3 pickups working at the same time when you only wanted 2 in a hum-cancelling position.

Does this make sense?

In other words, two leads would come from the toggle on each side. One would go directly to pickup A and the other would go through a slide switch to pickup B. You couldn't use that same switch for pickup D because B and D would come on at the same time when the toggle was slected for A/B.

Am I explaining this right?

Post by **Jay** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 2:23 pm

I think I see what your saying. I still can't help but think there has to be a way to do that with one switch though...

Post by **mezcalhead** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 3:01 pm

Sure, you just need one with more poles, if that's the right word. You won't be able to do it with the standard slider switch though.

Something like this.

Post by **fullerplast** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 3:10 pm

Yeah, more poles. That way you could power them both through one switch, yet still isolate them (the two secondaries). You may need more poles on the toggle too, I'm not sure.

I still haven't attempted to draw it yet... that's the only way I can figure out circuits. But it can probably be done.

It would be easy to do with two switches, but not as pleasing asthetically.

Post by **Jay** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 4:58 pm

My thought was actually a DPDT on the toggle would do it but I can never get this stuff unless I make a drawing either. I bet I can find a 4PDT slider switch somewhere as well. I would think Mouser or Digikey have something.

Post by **fullerplast** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 5:55 pm

Now you're talkin'

Post by **Jay** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 7:38 pm

Okay so why wouldn't this work? Both pickups, extra coils, or whatever, are in the circuit when the top switch is flipped but the bottom selector would still only choose one side, the other, or both no? I'm certianly no electronice wiz so I may be missing something obvious.

TheMilford · Post by **TheMilford** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 9:55 pm

Aren't the standard slide switches DPDT?

Post by **Orang Goreng** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 12:36 am

You need to draw two extra ground wires to match up with the red wires, then it would work. You'd end up with parallell humbuckers though, so the sound would be thinner and with lower output when the extra coils are engaged.

Sauerkraut · Post by **Sauerkraut** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 3:35 am

Jay wrote: How about a jazzmaster with 4 jag pickups where the upper switch brings the extra two into the circuit but reverse wound for hum cancelling? The 3 way switch would work as usual. Would this even work?

you forgot to mention you were inspired by my jagmaster http://public.fotki.com/sauerkraut/dres ... nextt.html

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