Piccolo Snare VS Regular Snare..

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Re: Piccolo Snare VS Regular Snare..

Post by CaptainCrunch » Tue Mar 24, 2009 2:04 pm

øøøøøøø wrote:
CaptainCrunch wrote: I paid $25 for my last Acro. These drums are as common as dirt.

Don't pay more than $100 for one unless it's unbelievable mint.
True up to and including about 2 years ago.

For some reason people have started to go looking for them almost all at once lately and they've crept up in price a bit.  Maybe the sagging economy will bring them back to earth.

$100 would be more than fair I think.

Either way, it's still a lot of snare drum for $100 or $150 in either case.

Oh, I agree. It's really all the snare anyone will ever need. And I know people get teh bonarz for Keystones, or deep ones, or 10 lug ones etc. But yer average 70's P-85 Blue/Olive Acro is worth less than the strainer and the badge, and every kid who went into percussion in school band had one. We can rid the world of smallpox, but there's no way you could ever dry up the supply of these things.

I know Tribi9 found his snare, and it will do everything a snare needs to do, but the $100 Acro thing is just a general rule (though I didn't factor in that he was using that fake Canadian money ;) ). It's like Mexican Strats - yeah, they're worth about $300-$350 used, but there's no reason you shouldn't wait for that $200 one to show up.
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Re: Piccolo Snare VS Regular Snare..

Post by Fiddy » Tue Mar 24, 2009 2:12 pm

CaptainCrunch wrote: though I didn't factor in that he was using that fake Canadian money ;)
We got the fake money, but you guys got the fake Strip-bars. Topless only.... ::).

We win!    ;D

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Re: Piccolo Snare VS Regular Snare..

Post by Fiddy » Tue Mar 24, 2009 8:33 pm

One of the little strainer wires on the snare I bought is missing (Wire must have broken off somehow, nothing is hanging tho)

How much does that affect the sound of the snare. Should it be replaced?

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Re: Piccolo Snare VS Regular Snare..

Post by øøøøøøø » Tue Mar 24, 2009 8:44 pm

on a $50 steel Pearl snare, I would not worry about it.  :)

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Re: Piccolo Snare VS Regular Snare..

Post by Fiddy » Tue Mar 24, 2009 8:50 pm

øøøøøøø wrote: on a $50 steel Pearl snare, I would not worry about it.   :)
Hey man! $60 get it right! >:(

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Re: Piccolo Snare VS Regular Snare..

Post by eggwheat » Wed Mar 25, 2009 2:26 pm

Hi..I've got 5 or 6 snares..incuding a $1200 Noble & Cooley Classic SS 8 inch deep thing...my $100 Pearl 6 1/2x14 steel free floating snare often beats it..using it right now on a recording. One snare wire has just snapped off actually..makes no difference.

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Re: Piccolo Snare VS Regular Snare..

Post by Fiddy » Wed Mar 25, 2009 2:34 pm

eggwheat wrote: One snare wire has just snapped off actually..makes no difference.
Awesome, good to know. It sounds ok to me, but then again I don't have a lot of experience with them. I figured I couldn't go wrong for $60, I could probably flip it for about the same when its time for it to go.
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Re: Piccolo Snare VS Regular Snare..

Post by eggwheat » Wed Mar 25, 2009 4:19 pm

The only thing I would suggest is to change the drum head. A coated Remo CS Reverse Dot is for me the best snare head made. It will make a large difference to the sound...spend time tuning it...playing around with the snare wire tension etc..all these thing make a big difference.

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Re: Piccolo Snare VS Regular Snare..

Post by øøøøøøø » Wed Mar 25, 2009 8:21 pm

I prefer a regular old coated Ambassador on my snare head. 

The "dot" type heads have a certain sound that works pretty well for backbeats and stuff, sometimes.

But for stuff that has a ton of dynamic variation from whisper quiet to loud, I think the regular coated ambassador is a lot more 'open' sounding at lower dynamic levels.  Breathes a bit more on ghost notes, and such.

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Re: Piccolo Snare VS Regular Snare..

Post by NBarnes21 » Wed Mar 25, 2009 10:24 pm

I always beat the shit out of Ambassadors in no time.  I use a 6.5x14" Ludwig Supraphonic and Black Beauty and like coated Emperors for those, it tames some of the overtones  and brightness. I actually have coated Emperors on all my batter heads, I play big sizes and they help keep them tame.
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Re: Piccolo Snare VS Regular Snare..

Post by NBarnes21 » Wed Mar 25, 2009 10:58 pm

Yeah Diplomats are pretty great sounding heads
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Re: Piccolo Snare VS Regular Snare..

Post by Fiddy » Wed Mar 25, 2009 11:00 pm

I was thinking the Taye snare I had sounded nicer, I'll try a new head on the snare see what does to the sound..

Thx for the tips guys.  :)

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Re: Piccolo Snare VS Regular Snare..

Post by Fiddy » Thu Apr 02, 2009 11:01 am

So I went out and picked up a Diplomat for my snare and the difference in sound with the previous head is huge. I really like the way it sounds now, the snare sounded kinda dead before. Sounds so clear and sparkly now, (Not sure how to describe sounds, specially drum ones) but yeah a really nice improvement for a few bux.  8)

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Re: Piccolo Snare VS Regular Snare..

Post by bdm » Thu Apr 02, 2009 11:08 am

øøøøøøø wrote:They sound like 311 and the Spin Doctors.   ;D :ph34r:
hahahahahaha...so right!

personally, the sound of a piccolo snare makes my skin crawl. that annoying high pitch ping, pang, crack. i can't decide what's worse, piccolo snares or splash cymbals.
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Re: Piccolo Snare VS Regular Snare..

Post by idiotbear » Thu Apr 02, 2009 11:33 am

Splash cymbals are worse. If you ever audition a drummer and he turns up with splashes, chinas and a piccolo, RUN! He'll be so busy doing his 20 minute fusion prog workout, he won't even notice you've gone.

One top tom, a big-ass bass drum, a floor tom the size of an oil barrel  and a big, deep snare. One crash, one ride. As a non-drummer, that's the setup I trust most. If your drummer is rocking that kind of kit, you're in business, in my experience at least.

Off topic, but I love it when the toms are tuned such that it's hard to hear a big pitch difference between them and the bass drum. Back in the day, Dave Grohl's fills on Aneurysm took our drummer a while to figure out because of the tonal similarity of the different drums. Such a cool, rolling, punchy sound.

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