Lost 59' jazzmaster

Discussion of vintage Jazzmasters, Jaguars, Bass VIs, Electric XIIs and any other offset-waist instruments.
User avatar
Fender96
PAT PEND
PAT PEND
Posts: 21
Joined: Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:27 pm

Re: Lost 59' jazzmaster

Post by Fender96 » Wed Feb 21, 2024 2:33 pm

Badabababa wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2024 1:17 pm
Can you visit him in person?
Yeah I could, but I have heard several stories about the dealer, and I know from my emails with him, that he really doesn't want to be in contact with me, so to be honest I would not like to get in the store In person. I mean, he of course owns the guitar (maybe still) and he has switched the guards around, and therefor I really don't have any more right to the guard than him. Which I of course understand and accept, but my problem with him is just, that he via. telephone said we could do the switch, but then just ghosted my, besides from 1 angry email he wrote 1 year ago.

User avatar
Fender96
PAT PEND
PAT PEND
Posts: 21
Joined: Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:27 pm

Re: Lost 59' jazzmaster

Post by Fender96 » Wed Feb 21, 2024 2:33 pm

takeittothemall wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2024 2:17 pm
I think it would be cool to have both guitars get their original guards back. Have you tried looking through applicable hashtags on Instagram to see if the owner has posted a photo of it there? #1959Jazzmaster might prove fruitful.
I would also love that! That would increase value and looks for both instruments! :D

Yeah good idea, I'm gonna try it out right away, thanks!

User avatar
RavenCrest
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 105
Joined: Mon Dec 25, 2023 11:10 am

Re: Lost 59' jazzmaster

Post by RavenCrest » Thu Feb 22, 2024 7:12 am

Geez, this brings back a cringey memory. I had a '59 with the original tweed case, and a tort guard. I was in a band project, and I was the bassist for this project but the guitarist who had been with us for about 6 or so mos asked if he could borrow it for a studio project. So like an idiot 17 yr old I said yes. Never saw it again. When I called to get it back, the guy just said "someone took it" so I reported it stolen.
I found it 18 years later (or at least the body) on eBay as the wear patterns were very distinctive and I did recognize the serial number. I contacted the local PD and they were able to forward me the police report and sure enough, the serial number matched. So I found the body, and the # plate on the same guitar. The neck didn't look right but that could have been wear. So I contacted the police and sent them the link to the eBay listing. Excited thinking I'd get it back, the officer told me the statute of limitations was only 5 years so I saw it again slip from my fingers. It sold for about $8,500

User avatar
Rob
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 310
Joined: Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:31 am
Location: Lexington, KY, US

Re: Lost 59' jazzmaster

Post by Rob » Thu Feb 22, 2024 7:50 am

RavenCrest wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2024 7:12 am
Never saw it again... ...When I called to get it back, the guy just said "someone took it"... ...I found it 18 years later... ...Excited thinking I'd get it back, the officer told me the statute of limitations was only 5 years so I saw it again slip from my fingers. It sold for about $8,500
This story hurt me, like, four different times.

User avatar
Highnumbers
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 625
Joined: Sat Apr 25, 2009 1:21 am
Location: Orange County, CA

Re: Lost 59' jazzmaster

Post by Highnumbers » Thu Feb 22, 2024 1:21 pm

RavenCrest wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2024 7:12 am
Geez, this brings back a cringey memory. I had a '59 with the original tweed case, and a tort guard. I was in a band project, and I was the bassist for this project but the guitarist who had been with us for about 6 or so mos asked if he could borrow it for a studio project. So like an idiot 17 yr old I said yes. Never saw it again. When I called to get it back, the guy just said "someone took it" so I reported it stolen.
I found it 18 years later (or at least the body) on eBay as the wear patterns were very distinctive and I did recognize the serial number. I contacted the local PD and they were able to forward me the police report and sure enough, the serial number matched. So I found the body, and the # plate on the same guitar. The neck didn't look right but that could have been wear. So I contacted the police and sent them the link to the eBay listing. Excited thinking I'd get it back, the officer told me the statute of limitations was only 5 years so I saw it again slip from my fingers. It sold for about $8,500
I'm no attorney, but I believe the statute of limitations only applies to the number of years a person could be charged with the crime of theft. Not about recovering stolen property.

There is no statute of limitations on recovering your stolen property, provided that you have a written police report, as far as I'm aware.

Hate to think that cop did you dirty, but it seems like it. What a sad tale overall!

User avatar
RavenCrest
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 105
Joined: Mon Dec 25, 2023 11:10 am

Re: Lost 59' jazzmaster

Post by RavenCrest » Fri Feb 23, 2024 1:40 pm

If you happen to find a federal statute, or maybe a FL statute, I'm not even sure how I'd track down that particular guitar ever again. My eyes about popped outta my head and I was super hopeful for about a day. I'm not even sure I still have access to that email address where they sent me a copy of the police report :/

User avatar
Marc
Expat
Expat
Posts: 1182
Joined: Sat Sep 23, 2006 11:25 pm
Location: South West UK

Re: Lost 59' jazzmaster

Post by Marc » Sat Feb 24, 2024 8:56 pm

Is it Guitarhunter.dk ? I’ve been in that shop. Had a gorgeous flamey neck 64 JM in at the time. Price was out of my league!

User avatar
Fender96
PAT PEND
PAT PEND
Posts: 21
Joined: Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:27 pm

Re: Lost 59' jazzmaster

Post by Fender96 » Mon Feb 26, 2024 9:02 am

Marc wrote:
Sat Feb 24, 2024 8:56 pm
Is it Guitarhunter.dk ? I’ve been in that shop. Had a gorgeous flamey neck 64 JM in at the time. Price was out of my league!
Nope, it's not. Might as well just say it, since the owner anyhow doesn't want to talk to me. The store is KMC, and the guitar is gone from their site, but not listed as sold, just removed. Have no faith, that the owner is gonna contact me anytime soon...

User avatar
Guitarman555
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 265
Joined: Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:36 pm

Re: Lost 59' jazzmaster

Post by Guitarman555 » Thu Feb 29, 2024 3:07 am

I wouldn´t care about the gold guard. I have heard that gold guard was not doing a good job for the sound. But I have not verified it.

User avatar
welshywelsh
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 382
Joined: Sat Aug 11, 2018 11:58 am

Re: Lost 59' jazzmaster

Post by welshywelsh » Thu Feb 29, 2024 7:57 am

Guitarman555 wrote:
Thu Feb 29, 2024 3:07 am
I wouldn´t care about the gold guard. I have heard that gold guard was not doing a good job for the sound. But I have not verified it.
Would strongly disagree with that ;D

User avatar
Guitarman555
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 265
Joined: Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:36 pm

Re: Lost 59' jazzmaster

Post by Guitarman555 » Thu Feb 29, 2024 12:52 pm

welshywelsh wrote:
Thu Feb 29, 2024 7:57 am
Guitarman555 wrote:
Thu Feb 29, 2024 3:07 am
I wouldn´t care about the gold guard. I have heard that gold guard was not doing a good job for the sound. But I have not verified it.
Would strongly disagree with that ;D
Depends if you want it for collector purposes or as a player

User avatar
andy_tchp
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 8038
Joined: Fri Apr 02, 2010 1:36 am
Location: Brisbane

Re: Lost 59' jazzmaster

Post by andy_tchp » Thu Feb 29, 2024 2:29 pm

Where did you 'hear' that?

:fp:
"I don't know why we asked him to join the band 'cause the rest of us don't like country music all that much; we just like Graham Lee."
David McComb, 1987.

User avatar
welshywelsh
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 382
Joined: Sat Aug 11, 2018 11:58 am

Re: Lost 59' jazzmaster

Post by welshywelsh » Fri Mar 01, 2024 1:37 am

Guitarman555 wrote:
Thu Feb 29, 2024 12:52 pm
Depends if you want it for collector purposes or as a player
I play it daily and at no point have I thought "damn I wish this bit of metal stopped ruining my sweet toanz"

User avatar
Guitarman555
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 265
Joined: Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:36 pm

Re: Lost 59' jazzmaster

Post by Guitarman555 » Fri Mar 01, 2024 2:43 am

welshywelsh wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2024 1:37 am
Guitarman555 wrote:
Thu Feb 29, 2024 12:52 pm
Depends if you want it for collector purposes or as a player
I play it daily and at no point have I thought "damn I wish this bit of metal stopped ruining my sweet toanz"
Good to know, so no impact on sound

User avatar
RavenCrest
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 105
Joined: Mon Dec 25, 2023 11:10 am

Re: Lost 59' jazzmaster

Post by RavenCrest » Fri Mar 01, 2024 7:22 pm

Guitarman555 wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2024 2:43 am
welshywelsh wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2024 1:37 am
Guitarman555 wrote:
Thu Feb 29, 2024 12:52 pm
Depends if you want it for collector purposes or as a player
I play it daily and at no point have I thought "damn I wish this bit of metal stopped ruining my sweet toanz"
Good to know, so no impact on sound
I would venture a guess and say it does impact tone at least slightly as the metal around the pickups vs the cellulose guard or plastic guard IMO would affect the signal around the pickups. IIRC the reason CLF wanted the full guard as aluminum had more to do with shielding. However the anodized coating would wear off within the warranty period so the originals are very tough to find. I remember reading or hearing a LONG time ago when I had my (now stolen) 59, that there was concerns about it grounding out and zapping the player but I have no idea of the validity of that claim. Just something I recalled hearing.

Post Reply